POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    if biden doesn't win Wisconsin, then some poll providers will be making a career change
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    we are five months past this getting contained without a vaccine under any workable circumstances. it is why the slow rollout of tests and states all doing their own thing in May was so devastating. I imagine it is naturalized at this point
     
  3. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I would say the same about Minnesota as well.
     
  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Texas already broke its vote record. I'm really curious to see the age demographics of who votes on election day.
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    McConnell is saying no COVID relief bill until January? Why?
     
  6. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    That is weird.
     
  7. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    he's going to "listen to the scientists" whatever that means. i fully believe he will shut down the country to try to prove a point.
     
  8. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    i have a buddy who works for the california republican party and he claims new registrations are heavy republican and that republicans won't vote early and is predicting a trump victory. not sure if that's worth anything, but i thought i'd share.
     
  9. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Trump winning California would make me laugh
     
  10. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

  11. chef65

    chef65 Contributor

    I’d rather have four more years of Trump than a narrow Biden win.

    The only short term hope for this country is a massive blue wave that forces the elephants to pack it in and go home. If Biden wins states like Georgia, Texas, and Arizona by a wide margin, perhaps the GOP as we know it will collapse and give way to two parties, the progressives and the conservative democratic party. This would roughly put us on par with the rest of the developed world.

    However, a thin margin of victory for Biden will confirm that too many of us are too irredeemably brainwashed and/or downright retarded to learn a lesson from anything or effect any change. Business as usual will continue indefinitely and the liberals will keep promoting solutions that work within the framework of a terminally ill system.

    The only prayer at that point is further damage via a figure like Trump who finally causes enough destruction to rouse the people to revolution.
     
  12. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Well, Biden isn’t going to win Texas, Georgia, and (most likely) Arizona by a wide margin. So, time to pack it in I guess.
     
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  13. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    What happens if the polls are off and the GOP wins?


    Does that mean the progressives should just pack it up and let the moderates and republicans run things
     
  14. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    That is interesting. Does he think it will be a close race or is he expecting Trump to win easily?
     
  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Progressives haven't run things in about 70 years.
     
  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    he doesn’t think he is winning California, but he told me I’ll be shocked about how close it will be and I laughed
     
  17. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    easily. I’m very skeptical
     
  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think when you work close to that stuff, your perspective can et galvanized because you have so much information from one perspective that you forget that the other side has a whole stream of information that they are operating on and expecting the same results for themselves. I know people who were sure McCain was going to win, Romney was going to win, and H. Clinton was going to win. I don't think they knew much less than the people who thought the opposite in those elections. It's [uck fay]ing close in this country. The difference is a small fraction of who doesn't show up to vote at all.
     
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  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    He has stated that he will not. Even if you don't believe him, he's directly stated the contrary. And I think most scientists think (or at least many) we are well past the point of shutdowns having much effect.

     
  20. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Polls could be right and Biden still lose. With polling margin and undecideds, Biden could easily lose FL, PA, AZ, NC, and GA. If he loses MN, WI, or MI then I’d say that’s a failure of those polls.

    The reason Biden’s odds aren’t high is because if the polls aren’t wildly wrong (Trump wins WI, MI, etc) is that Biden likely only needs one from that list of FL, PA, AZ, NC, and GA. Systematic polling error everywhere within standard margin of error therefore gives Trump not unreasonable odds. 538 has it at something like 15%. But a lot of that is because of Biden’s wider edge in PA. If polling there ends up being off and Trump wins it - it’s an absolute toss-up or even Trump edge.
     

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