Ann Coulter on Obamacare / Shut Down

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  1. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I honestly think that I am in love with this woman.

    From her most recent article, entitled, "Democrats to America: We Own the Government!" (ordinarily, I wouldn't copy and past the whole thing, but to edit her work in any way is akin to hanging a quilt as curtains in the Sistine Chapel....I just can't do it.)

    In the current fight over the government shutdown, Republicans are simply representing the views of the American people.

    Americans didn't ask for Obamacare, they don't want it, but now their insurance premiums are going through the roof, their doctors aren't accepting it, and their employers are moving them into part-time work -- or firing them -- to avoid the law's mandates.

    Contrary to Obama's promises, it turns out: You can't keep your doctor, you can't keep your insurance -- you can't even keep your job. In other words, it's a typical government program, but this one wrecks your health care.

    Also, the president did raise taxes on the middle class in defiance of his well-worn campaign promise not to. Indeed, Obamacare is the largest tax hike in U.S. history.

    Among the other changes effected by this law are:

    -- Obamacare will allow insurers to charge 50 percent higher premiums for smokers, but prohibits insurers from increasing premiums for those with HIV/AIDS.

    -- Nationally, Obamacare will increase men's individual insurance premiums by an average of 99 percent and women's by 62 percent. In North Carolina, for example, individual insurance premiums will triple for women and quadruple for men.

    -- Health plans valued at $27,500 or more for a family of four will be taxed at a rate of 40 percent.

    -- No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.

    -- A 62-year-old man earning $46,000 a year is entitled to a $7,836 government tax credit to buy health insurance. But if he earns an extra $22 in income, he loses the entire $7,836 credit. He will have more take-home pay by earning $46,000 than if he earns $55,000. (If he's lucky, he already works for one of the companies forced by Obamacare to reduce employees' hours!)

    -- Merely to be eligible for millions of dollars in grants from the federal government under Obamacare, education and training programs are required to meet racial, ethnic, gender, linguistic and sexual orientation quotas. That's going to make health care MUCH better!


    -- Obamacare is turning America into a part-time nation. According to a recent report by economist John Lott, 97 percent of all jobs added to the economy so far this year have been part-time jobs. Ninety-seven percent!

    -- Obamacare is such a disaster that the people who wrote it refuse to live under it themselves. That's right, Congress won a waiver from Obamacare.

    Responding to the people's will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government -- except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

    Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

    Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

    Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.

    A longtime Democratic operative, Karen Finney, explained the Democrats' intransigence on MSNBC to a delighted Joan Walsh (aka the most easily fooled person on TV) by comparing House Republicans to a teenager trying to borrow his mother's car. "No, I'm not negotiating!" Mother says. "It's MY CAR!"

    This wasn't a stupid slip of the tongue that other Democrats quickly rejected. Finney had used the exact same metaphor to a panel of highly agreeable MSNBC guests the day before. (MSNBC books no other kind of guest.)

    The left thinks the government is their car and the people's representatives are obstreperous teenagers trying to borrow the government. Which belongs to Democrats.

    That's not how the Constitution views the House of Representatives. To the contrary, the House is considered most reflective of the people's will because its members are elected every two years.

    As a matter of fact, the Republicans who mistakenly assume they have something to do with running the government represent most of the people who pay taxes to run it. So it's more like a teenager who is making the car payments, maintaining the car insurance and taking responsibility for registering the car being told: "It's not your car."

    But the Democrats refuse to even negotiate. It's their government -- and if you Republicans think you're going out dressed like that, you've got another thing coming! Needless to say, they absolutely will not consider the Republicans' demand that Democrats merely live under Obamacare themselves.

    Instead, Democrats say "the Koch brothers" are behind the effort to defund Obamacare.

    They say Republicans are trying to "burn the whole house down" (Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz); "have lost their minds" (Sen. Harry Reid); are trying to negotiate "with a bomb strapped to their chest" (senior White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer); are "legislative arsonists" (Rep. Nancy Pelosi); and are engaging in "blatant extortion" (White House press secretary Jay Carney).

    The MSNBC crowd calls Republicans "arsonists" every 15 minutes. They ought to check with fellow MSNBC host Al Sharpton. He knows his arsonists! In 1995, Sharpton whipped up a mob outside the Jewish-owned Freddy's Fashion Mart with an anti-Semitic speech. Sometime later, a member of the mob torched the store, killing seven Hispanic employees.

    Every single Democrat in the country uses the exact same talking point: We "refuse to negotiate with a gun being held to our head."

    Which means the Democrats will not negotiate at all -- not now, not ever. House Republicans have already passed three-dozen bills defunding, or otherwise modifying, Obamacare. Senate Democrats and liberal commentators had a good laugh at Republicans for passing them.

    Now they're paying attention!

    If you are in the minority of Americans not already unalterably opposed to Obamacare, keep in mind that the only reason the government is shut down right now is that Democrats refuse to fund the government if they are required to live under Obamacare.

    That's how good it is!

    (Emphasis gleefully mine).

    Link: http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2013-10-09.html#read_more
     
  2. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Made it halfway through the second sentence before I found a logic problem, remembered Ann ****er is a hack, and then quit reading.
     
  3. zero-sum

    zero-sum New Member

    fyp
     
  4. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Sorry, where were they?
     
  5. Snakeonia

    Snakeonia Active Member

    if she's such a clueless hack then how does she present facts in that article?
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    One: We still aren't a Democracy Ann, so what the American people want is irrelevant.

    Two: If we legislate only what Americans want, we won't legislate shit.

    Three: If we shut down government because we are standing up for what Americans want, we'd never have government, the IRS or pretty much anything not related to free everything.

    But again, I only made it to halfway through the second sentence, so there might be more...
     
  7. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    The same way all clueless hacks do:
    1. For money
    2. Incorrectly
     
  8. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Probably like everything else she does, with "truths" that are highly selectively and manipulatively presented to cater to her biased, extreme agenda that fails to hold up to facts. I suppose it's possible she could be right about this when I bother to read the article, but, when someone so idiotic gets nearly everything else wrong, it's hard to take their opinion seriously. On the other hand, the more she opens her mouth, traditionally, the more her dumbass deters those from her viewpoint. Maybe she can tie her rant against Obamacare with some of her usual racist dribble against Arabic people (or a host of other groups) to make it an extra special dose of moron. Nothing like someone desperately clinging to backward ideas while the world changes around them.
     
  9. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I disagree that Americans don't want this government. Everyone re-elects their *******, so as far as I'm concerned American has exactly the government it wants. They simply don't want to pay for it.
     
  10. Snakeonia

    Snakeonia Active Member

    i'm talking about the article. not all of her other stuff.
     
  11. Snakeonia

    Snakeonia Active Member

    not necessarily. i'm sure a lot of people think both sides are a bunch of jack offs
     
  12. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    she sometimes entertains me, like sometimes I'm entertained by Seinfeld or Lost or whatever
     
  13. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I would consider those shows fairly well-written and a little more high-minded than your average TV. I don't think that was what you were going for, though.
     
  14. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I'd still like to read your complete and total thoughts on this from your background and profession. You say it here and there, I'd just like to see a Tenny-esque post going into detail.
     
  15. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    right, point wasn't to compare her to those particular shows, just the first 2 tv shows I thought of that I've watched and maybe seen something or 2 that I related to or whatever but mostly just entertainment purposes only
     
  16. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Honestly, I'm still something of a rookie in dealing with insurance. I know enough to know it sucks and is setting up to suck more.
     
  17. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Are you saying the smoke monster is a metaphor for Obama?
     
  18. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I love the fact that no one can piss off the left like she can, and I find it insanely entertaining. Beck, Rush, W., heck, ol' [penis] Cheney himself can't begin to approach her level of infuriating the left.
     
  19. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Newman
     
  20. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Soup Nazi IMO
     

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