DOMA Struck Down / Prop 8 Dismissed

Spoon train.

 

I have a creative imagination I suppose.

 

I still find it unbelievable that anyone cares. I recently had a discussion with someone who I find very smart on most things and his response was "what's next, marry a horse?" Yeah, same thing buddy. I feel sorry for the poor dudes son because I'd put good odds he's gay.

 

I do too. I just see all the creative ways putting up with multiple wives could make my life a living hell.

 

If it flies, floats, or ****s, rent it.

 

My guess is polygamist wives are pretty old-fashioned/submissive.

 

Oh I'm sure they are at first. . .

 

I can understand the religious objections to a degree. I'm religious, and if I'm honest, I'm not sure how I would feel if I didn't have a gay family member. If one doesn't want to marry a same sex partner, no one's forcing them.


I mean no offense toward those in opposition, but I guess the thing that puzzles me is that those that trumpet the values of freedom and the awesomeness of this nation make up a significant portion of the opposition to this issue. I fall short, but I try to be a good Christian. However, I totally disagree with legislating through religion. It's fine if you're in the majority, but would be difficult being in the minority. Teaching religion is a personal issye to be done by the family. If we're depending on govt to uphold our religion, we're in trouble and need to examine ourselves. After all, govt never does anything right. Right?

I don't understand what it is to be gay. I don't feel what they feel. I've had this discussion with my brother, and he understands my feelings.

 

These type retorts frustrate me as well; nothing but intellectual laziness.

 

It does some stuff well, but it's a really limited list. I also agree with your post.

 

This is a great post, Jay. I understand that many folks have moral objections based on their personal, often religious, beliefs. I respect those beliefs fully, even when in opposition to my own.

I realize that I overuse the hell out of this word, but it is all about empathy. There are all types of people and things in this world which we cannot fully understand. Rather than exhibiting the all too common human responses of fear or rejection, I strive to be as empathic as possible in directing my response, feelings and future behavior. This has and continues to be a key component to how I live my life, and is core in directing my thoughts and actions. It has served me well in life. Your example is a great one; it can be difficult with situations that we frankly have no chance of fully understanding, but how great it is when we actually make the effort to try.

 

Interesting, is this the only book or are there others? What keeps one from omitting any other book of the Bible?

 

Can I be cool with GBC and hate NYY and call it even?

Are we all ok with that?

 

I too can understand the religious objections TO A DEGREE. I don't understand people buring calories on the matter. most of these people couldn't give two shits about any other people going out sinning daily. it's selective outrage that IMO is based in bigotry or at least as you put it "not understanding what it is to be gay." I'm of the belief that the vast majority of males are completely heterosexual (despite the theory that we are all bi or something) and find the thought of gay sex repulsive (i can't say i like the thought of it either). and IMO that's what this is based in. i.e. if i find something disgusting, it must be morally wrong. personally i coudn't care less as to what gets you going as long as i'm not involved. foot fetish? fine. want to be peed on? sounds disgusting as hell to me. but how is it any of my concern?

 

I thought that was already standard procedure?

 

I just wanted to make sure it was all cool with everyone.

 

I must defer to NYY. After all, he is far gayer and has been far longer than I. Allegedly.

 

This is a good post, jay. I told my wife the day it happened that the striking down of DOMA should be one of the best things to happen to the modern day church. It's foolish for Christians who believe homosexuality to be a sin to put hope and faith in man and man's laws. Society's moral values should not be regulated by the government. Sadly, I hear more wailing over the ruling than an admittance or realization that this was the wrong way to go about establishing your beliefs within the public.