Interesting video on Sandy Hook

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Oldvol75, Jan 14, 2013.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Funny, i would argue the "we need all kinds of guns to defend us from
    The government" to be pretty fear-based.
     
  2. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Funny, I would argue that the founding fathers fighting "the government" at that time disagree with you.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    As thousands killed in the past year agree with me.
     
  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    These conversations always remind me of Farmer Shays. I remember how the founding fathers treated with him.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2013
  5. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    As many more thousands killed in the past year by cars agree they should be removed from the streets.
     
  6. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    So few loudmouthed idiots = fear mongering?

    And that also has nothing to do with my point.
     
  7. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    Haha.
     
  8. OrangeEmpire

    OrangeEmpire Take a chance, Custer did

    Safe to say the world is an overwhelmingly dangerous place.

    The disagreement is how much we can protect ourselves. With a motor vehicle you take the risk while driving.

    Elimination of assault rifles is the tip of the iceberg with regard to gun control. I know volume seems to be current argument but hand guns are a far greater problem in this country.
     
  9. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Hand guns are about 10 million times more dangerous than the so called "assault rifles" that people want banned. It's funny watching people that don't have a clue about guns get all worked up over AR-15's when that's not the problem.

    Hand guns are much more easily concealed, just as easy to shoot and just as easy to reload.

    It's a combo of mentally unstable people, people not taking the care to put guns away when not in use and dumbasses that think having a gun makes them invincible. People calling for bans aren't getting at the problem, they're just pissing off the millions of responsible gun owners.
     
  10. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    People will find a way to kill people regardless of how easy it is to access guns. I don't see the point in blaming a gun when a lunatic decides to go off. I never have and I never will. It's easy to point blame a gun though, I guess that's why.

    It's a lot harder to call out parents that had kids doped up on ritalin, prozac etc and not dealing with an issue. And the Sandy Hook deal? You're living with a psycho that's threatened bodily harm on you. It is the mother's fault for having a gun where the guy could get them. That's not a gun issue and a ban isn't going to help it either.
     
  11. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    1) It is a silly arguement; as if a few running around with deer rifles could match the military firepower. I do know a few who I would otherwise consider rational that want assault weapons to protect themselves and their families during the apocalypse they feel is coming (i.e., market meltdown, natural disaster, manmade disaster, etc.).

    2) Because deflection is easier than answering the question.
     
  12. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Holding people accountable for their actions is not politically correct.
     
  13. OrangeEmpire

    OrangeEmpire Take a chance, Custer did

    Typical political over reaction not directly dealing with all aspects of the problems.

    I dont blame the Obama political machine for exploiting the tragedy. Team Obama needs any thing and every thing to hang their hat on.

    Im not naive enough to believe they truly care about responsible gun control. Gun related crime in this country is despicable with or without these mass shootings.

    It would be refreshing to actually address gun control not limited to political buzz words of the day.

    :)
     
  14. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I'm sorry, how does this remind you of the rebellion?
     
  15. OrangeEmpire

    OrangeEmpire Take a chance, Custer did

    Evil white conservatives

    Only thing worse is evil white conservative industries
     
  16. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    They don't want to fund his research
     
  17. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I would like a little commentary on how the founders were witness to an armed rebellion, and though they put the rebellion down, they didn't ban the arms they were carrying.

    Hm. What ya think IP?
     
  18. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    The California Democrat [Sen. Dianne Feinstein] intends to expand on the ban that expired in 2004, by including handguns and shotguns, in addition to rifles. She would decrease from two to one the number of cosmetic features on a gun to have it be considered an “assault weapon.” This means that if a gun has just one item like a pistol grip or bayonet lug, then it is illegal.

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  19. OrangeEmpire

    OrangeEmpire Take a chance, Custer did

    South Carolina always does something silly every 50 years or so.
     
  20. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    What about a shotgun with a pistol grip used to turkey hunt with? That's a pretty popular modification.
     

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