POLITICS Random Political/Legal

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by fl0at_, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    then if I’m musk I immediately do an lbo and take Tesla private
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    A lot of teachers on the Forbes list. Asking for classroom supplies.
     
  3. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Correct one the gold standard. The average person could just save and not lose their wealth. You have to invest now instead of saving or the Fed and government robs your wealth, unless it's in a real asset

    The flip side is that without this runaway system. You're not going to get the government that you want
     
  4. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    the working rich always will pay more taxes than the investor class. That being said the average teachers income tax rate is essentially zero so I’m not sure how much less you can pay than that.
     
  5. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    Speaking from 60+ years of paying federal and various state taxes, my personal middle class experience has been, the Left usually (not always) told us OUR "taxes" would go up; the Right usually (not always) would tell us THE "taxes" would go down.

    In both cases, I got screwed.
     
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  6. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    i have multiple teacher self made millionaire clients. No joke. It is possible. Well at least in California where teachers can retire with 6 figure pensions.
     
  7. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Most teachers I work on have an effective rate of less than 10% once all is said and done.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I never commented on an alternative or governments. Just to be clear.
     
  9. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    A teacher on average is more likely to be a millionaire than a doctor too.
     
  10. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    The middle class pays a lower marginal tax rate today than it has ever since we really started taxing income. The rich pay essentially the same marginal tax rate they’ve paid for 50 years
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Well ya okay I could see it then. My sister teaches in Murfreesboro and, uh, has a different situation
     
  12. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    exactly
     
  13. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    The people that get squeezed the most are the working upper middle class. They get phased out of every credit imaginable. A single person making above 170K is going to start to get hammered quickly.
     
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  14. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    i have a client who’s husband died of cancer at 55 with cancer and was a teacher and their two combined pensions pay $150k a year with cost of living increases
     
  15. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    100 percent
     
  16. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Why do I see charts of the marginal tax rate being much higher in the 50's, 60's, and 70's?
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Why doesn't every teacher move to california?
     
  18. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    This is true. And you've never bought into the Elon hype.
     
  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    On the Tesla price, i wouldn't want to be in come 2023, because a lot of good electric vehicles hit in late 2022 and that market might start looking very different. The Ford Lightning and some others may be stiff competition. The vehicle options are going to grow faster than the market for electric vehicles
     
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  20. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I still think of Tesla as more of a battery company than car producer.
     

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