POLITICS Ukraine

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Jan 22, 2022.

  1. ole_orange

    ole_orange Member

    What else is new? Between not everyone paying 2% of of their GDP to fund NATO and the trend of European countries slacking on funding the Ukraine war, Europe loves relying on the premise that the Yanks will always be there to pay for the military defense of their continent. In just a few months the entire continent is going to demand that America supply them with enough natural gas to keep everyone warm this winter.
     
  2. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    Yeah, it does not bode well that some European countries are backing off/dragging feet on Ukraine support.

    Re: NATO 2% GDP contribution, while some countries have met that target ahead of time, that 2% negotiated target was set for 2024.

    This is an old article and there may be more up-to-date data, but this gives a good summary.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-44717074
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

  4. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Ukraines counter-offensive seems to be going well. Some Russian politicians now calling for Putins impeachment (which has suddenly become a crime to do), State TV talking heads painting a gloomy picture, reports of many cities, villages areas being liberated, Russian flags being replaced by Ukrainian flags. I hope they take back Crimea.
     
  5. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Russia appears to be rapidly falling apart. They couldn't do the overwhelming force takeover and their corruption and inefficiency has lead to breakdowns and a seeming loss of morale against a highly motivated opposition. It would be a prime chance for other countries they've bullied in their attempt to recreate the Soviet Empire rise up and retake their lost lands, like Georgia or Azerbaijan.
     
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  6. IP

    IP "You don't know what it is like in our universe."

    Meanwhile, on righty outlets that were totally not sympathetic to Russia and just were countering the Ukraine/NATO propaganda:

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  7. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

  8. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

  9. IP

    IP "You don't know what it is like in our universe."

    The material losses are so high, any counter offensive would be a last gasp. They can't hold a line. Unless they've kept their air force parked for some reason until now.
     
  10. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

  11. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Fleeing to Canada is a universal right, apparently!
     
  12. HCKevinSteele

    HCKevinSteele Well-Known Member

    Seems like it’s time for Putin to accidentally jump out a window.
     
  13. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Putin is about to try and do something really stupid
     
  14. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I suppose being told, essentially, we need 300,000 more people to act as cannon fodder for a war most of them of fighting age think is probably stupid anyway leads one to say they'll get the [uck fay] out of Dodge. I would.
     
  15. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Putin is [uck fay]ed and he probably knows it. Anything he says or does from this point forward is with the goal of slowing the decline that is his support.

    That also makes him even more dangerous.
     
  16. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Yep, he is getting backed into a corner quickly.
     
  17. Joseph Brant

    Joseph Brant Airbrush Aficionado

    Playing offense with hastily trained conscripts always ends well.
     
  18. IP

    IP "You don't know what it is like in our universe."

    Putin is basically murdering these guys.
     
  19. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

  20. IP

    IP "You don't know what it is like in our universe."

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