What do we think about Ty Helton?

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by Tar Volon, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Started under June Jones, very successful under Jeff Brohm (we hardly knew you) at WKU, has been with/under Tee at USC lately. Apparently he’s going to be our OC, and I’m not sure what to think about that. As Muschamp showed at Florida, a defensively-oriented coach is going to struggle without the right OC
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  2. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    USC - the Pac 12 champs - offense this year

    20th in ppg
    22nd in points per play
    12th in ypg
    35th in rushing offense
    29th in ypc
    18th in passing ypg
    14th in yards per pass att.
  3. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    My concerns are:

    1. He had a talent advantage at USC that he won’t necessarily have here
    2. How much of his fantastic success at WKU was just Brohm (and how much did he learn from it)?

    But I don’t know much about the guy. His numbers are good, for sure
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  4. salutethehill

    salutethehill Member

    any relation to T.Y. Hilton?
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  5. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Hard to tell, USC appears to have three people heavily involved in the offense
  6. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    He's done most of the tutoring of Darnold, yes?
  7. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    Bring me a QB developing guru. Please!
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  8. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    OC? Dang. I was hoping QB coach and maybe passing game coordinator.

    If actually the case then not as on board. Seems like he’s had a nice run but not sure about that uSC offensive play calling - which I thought he was doing.
  9. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Looks like we’re pulling Friend from Colorado State as our OL coach (and maybe run-game coordinator?). But I’d assume Helton would call the plays over Friend, who wasn’t doing it at CSU (Bobo was). Honestly not sure when Helton has called plays before. Supposedly Tee was at SC, and wouldn’t be surprised if Brohm did at WKU. But I dunno.

    Supposedly Friend is a really good OL coach. Probably should’ve just started a thread for assistant hires in general, since they seem to be flooding in right now.
  10. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Is Tracy Rocker confirmed?
  11. Daddy Gee

    Daddy Gee Chieftain

    I don't think it's confirmed yet
  12. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

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  13. docholiday

    docholiday Contributor

    He was available. As a head coach too. Kiffin.
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  14. docholiday

    docholiday Contributor

    If he is the qb coach it will be fine. He has to land an elite OC to this staff.
  15. YankeeVol

    YankeeVol Member

    As QB coach? Absolutely
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  16. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    May have been referring to Rocker.
  17. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    I've seen that it is for OC.
  18. YankeeVol

    YankeeVol Member

    Not sure I like it for OC, he’s not really behind the offense at USC (the other Helton is)
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  19. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Looks like he’s never been a full-time playcaller, which is a bit of a concern, although it certainly could work out.
  20. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    He apparently can develop QBs - In 2016, he was named the FootballScoop Quarterbacks Coach of the Year. USC was ninth nationally in completion percentage (65.7) and 25th in both passing efficiency (149.6) and pass offense (276.4). Quarterback Sam Darnold won the Archie Griffin Award, was a Manning Award finalist, was the Pac-12 Freshman Offensive Player of the Year and was the Rose Bowl MVP while completing 67.2% of his passes and throwing 31 TDs.

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