BIGFOOT real or not?

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Oldvol75, Jan 1, 2012.

  1. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Fair points.

    And in that case, you might as well toss the DNA as evidence, as well.

    And no one can say there are no such things as Sasquatch, Yetis (non-cooler kind), unicorns, centaurs, etc. But extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and like UFOs, none has ever been produced.
     
  2. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    You are confusing evidence with proof. DNA found at a particular sighting that cannot be definitely shown to belong to Specie X is still evidence, it just isn't proof.

    Skepticism is healthy. Skepticism that makes you an idiot is idiocy.
     
  3. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Am I being an idiot in this case? I do not think so, of course, but am open to such a critique.
     
  4. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    he's gotta be real. he's been doing beef jerky commercials for years
     
  5. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Oh. And I am learning not to try to debate while taking muscle relaxers for a jacked up back. My head feels like it is full of oatmeal.
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    If you just saying words like "DNA" and confusing proof and evidence, then, I'd say yes.

    And I say so only because I know DNA isn't a foreign concept to you, and I know you know the difference between proof and evidence; and yet, in less than three posts, you've managed to flub on all.

    And I can only blame that on a blinding level of skepticism that has caused you to say things an idiot would say.

    So what I'm saying is don't do that. Be skeptical, but don't be so skeptical you say things an idiot would say.
     
  7. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I am going to blame my muscle relaxers on my misuse of terms.
     
  8. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Here is one for you, if time is infinite, and there are infinite multiverses, then the probability of BigFoot existing approaches 1.

    So the argument is not whether it is real or not, but whether it is real on this plane of existence, at this time.

    But that also isn't argument, unless we can definitively prove that multiple planes and multiple times cannot momentarily interact.

    Meaning, for this moment in time, our position in space, if overlapping with the Bigfoot dimension would cause both to exist simultaneously, and only for certain periods.

    And even that isn't the full debate, so just accept that it is real, or reject science.
     
  9. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

  10. chef65

    chef65 Contributor

    Has such a sample ever been produced? Every example I've seen has been definitively linked to a goat, bear, beaver, etc.
     
  11. InVolNerable

    InVolNerable Fark Master Flex

    DN
     
  12. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I would be comparing it to the phylogenetic tree. If it were a bigfoot, then it would have unique DNA. So right there, I could compare it to bear, raccoon, and every other possible source in the forest.

    It would be unique to known mammals, and possibly share genes with existing great apes. I don't need to know a specific sequence to compare to know that it could be compared to existing mammals and would need to come back as being a new organism.

    show. me. dat. D.N.A.


    Also, OJ was guilty. The Law is as fallible as humanity.
     
  13. chef65

    chef65 Contributor

    I will say this, I went fishing here in middle TN about a month ago in a large creek/small river, and as I was making my way to the prime location in pitch black (but full moon) conditions, I heard an enormous splash about 35 ft ahead. This part of the creek is only accessible via wading through crotch-high water for about 1/4th of a mile. Anyway, it sounded exactly like someone throwing the largest rock he could handle into the middle of the water, but I'm sure it was just that monster smallmouth that's been eluding me for years or perhaps some aquatic rodent. The dense brush on either side pretty much rules out a person throwing something.

    Still, it was a disconcerting experience and I did an impression of Butters walking through the forest until I made it to land.

    Does anyone have any alternative explanations?
     
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  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Aquatic rodent. Beaver. Maybe a big turtle off a log or embankment.
     
  15. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Freshwater shark.
     
  16. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    A beaver slapping the water with its tail
     
  17. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    This is very, very incorrect. You and I and your dog, and my dog, and BigFoot, and the Ape at the zoo are 99% fruit fly.

    In that 1%, we separate out because we have KNOWN human markers.

    If you never had a human marker, how would you separate us out from fruit fly?

    You test it against goat, beaver, dog, wolf, bonobo, and fruit fly, and guess what? You find huge signatures on bonobo.

    So what do you do? Can you say it's human? No, you don't have markers for human.

    But instead you say it's 98% bonobo, and since you've never seen human, it must be bonobo.

    And that is how every DNA study on BigFoot is done. Because there is nothing to compare it to, but idiots think DNA has meaning here, and it doesn't.

    Only an idiot would think it does.
     
  18. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Every study you've seen says it shows markers from animal X at a concentration of Y%, so it's reasonable to conclude that the DNA must have come from X.

    But that's only because there is no filter for BigFoot, because there is no definitive BigFoot DNA.

    What that study actually says is this DNA's CLOSEST KNOWN MATCH is animal X.

    That doesn't mean there can't be a match that is closer, but unknown.
     
  19. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    I got one for you.

    What if c-a-t really spelled dog?

    Sent from my Moto G (5) Plus using Tapatalk
     
  20. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Is there a universe where UT doesn't suck at everything?
     

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