Netflix - Making a Murderer

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Butthole, Dec 27, 2015.

  1. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    IP believes him to be innocent. The prosecution rests.
     
  2. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I think he did it but I also think the cops messed with some stuff too.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Does the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt thing just sound good on TV?
     
  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    This may be the case, which is a damn shame.
     
  5. 10SEvols

    10SEvols Member

    I think he's guilty, just not legally. Could be what the jurors thought also.
     
  6. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    That they did it.
     
  7. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    So what's your vote if you are a juror? Are okay with framing a guilty man? I am not.
     
  8. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    They?
     
  9. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I’d have a hard time with a yes vote.
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Evidence.
     
  11. dtmvol

    dtmvol Member

    Focusing solely on the "evidence" available to the viewers (which is limited, edited with bias, and/or available from www sources), IMO the most damning evidence in this case is the sum total of the evidence. Unless the perps are caught in the act or maybe on video, there is no slam dunk certainty -- even the Avery rape case illustrates the inexactness of what has historically been accepted as criminal science certainty ie the eyewitness.
     
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  12. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Seems like a cop out. The sum total of evidence, which may be tampered with and is subjective in nature.

    Don' limit it to the documentary. Is there not even one solid piece of evidence that either demonstrates a motive or places the crime scene on the property, or Avert or the kid with the victim's body?

    We have a magically appearing car with a suspiciously obvious blood spatter generated from no known wound or action of the accused, and a burn barrel off the property. Both of which were missed by multiple targeted law enforcement searches. And this is a guy that was framed by local law enforcement before.
     
  13. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I’m just messing with you. Haven’t seen the show and know very little about the case.
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    It's a very grey thing. He may well be guilty and framed at the same time
     
  15. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    A 12-person jury of their peers convicted them, having heard everything you've mentioned.

    The latest court rejected these very arguments.

    That's how it works.
     
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  16. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    This may be true. And it may not be.

    But the only thing that's thus far been proven is that Brendan Dassey is guilty, and beyond any reasonable doubt.
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I don't think you want to make this your litmus test for what is right.
     
  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    That's what we are discussing. I'm asking what that evidence was that proved it in the legal non-float sense of the word. You he replied by restating that it was proven.
     
  19. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I said that's how it works.

    I didn't claim that it was an inerrant process, by any means.

    Let him appeal. We have stuff to handle those, too.
     
  20. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Like you, I didn't watch the entirety of his trial, and all evidence presented or arguments made.

    Unlike you, I'm not mistaking that trial with the content of that documentary.
     
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