POLITICS 2020 Election

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Nov 7, 2018.

  1. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    It sucks now and its going to suck as a national system too.

    The people over is only going to care about reelection and will be ran very short sided by everyone involved.
     
  2. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    It does, but any radical changes get hordes of people to lose their mind about "socialism" and that magic word is the ether to start the fires of rage of, especially, suburban white folks. Look what happened to Obama in 2010.
     
  3. cpninja

    cpninja Member

    would prefer the "suck" that wont bankrupt me if I needed emergency medical care vs the current "suck" that will bankrupt me if I need more than a couple x-rays at once
     
  4. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Then you probably don't want this crop of politicians coming up with your healthcare options.
     
  5. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    I don't like the current system, but single payer isn't the only solution either.
     
  6. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    The system isn't going to be fixed until you fix about 1,000,000 other things other than insurance. It's just the most viable of many, many problems.
     
  7. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    For what we have been thru the last 18 months and paying $1000/month, healthcare has been great.
     
  8. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

     
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  9. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    Seems like it all depends on who you have and what you need. I had surgery this year and had no issues
     
  10. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    We have a whole damn system from food to health care that's controlled that is broken. Lack of money being thrown at it is the last thing that's keeping it from being solved.
     
  11. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    it's not just her wacky politics it's the fact she's got zero charisma which doesn't work too well when trying to become president.
     
  12. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    we are already there really. look at the numbers in the articles. that type of job losses nationally is nothing: In Pennsylvania, the manufacturing sector lost 8,100 jobs. In North Carolina, it was 7,700, and Wisconsin lost 6,500 jobs.

    There's are reason why manufacturing is in recession mode and the economy and job market is still going strong.
     
  13. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    saying medicare for all without us knowing what we are subsidizing per person on medicare is insane. there is no question medicare is the cheapest option out there for the individual on medicare, but that's not factoring in what the taxpayers are subsidizing.
     
  14. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    What does factor in what taxpayers are subsidizing?
     
  15. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    private insurance
     
  16. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    No it doesn't.
     
  17. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    how so?
     
  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    those are small numbers, but whole small towns. it may not seem meaningful on a national scale, but it is devastating on a local and regional level.
     
  19. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    you going to factor in how the taxpayer has subsidized you? School, roads, infrastructure, research into the medicine and care you need, etc? federal funding plays a huge role in the development of technology and treatments you seem to think spring forth from private insurance.
     
  20. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    we are seriously comparing indirect subsidies with direct subsidies? i'm talking about the direct subsidy that the taxpayers are paying between the real cost per person for people on medicare and what medicare recipients are actually paying. and the taxpayer hasn't subsidized me shit. i pay far more in than i get out in benefits.
     

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