POLITICS Democratic Nominee 2020 Lollapalooza

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by Unimane, Feb 6, 2019.

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Who will win the Democratic nomination for president in 2020?

  1. Biden, J

    42.1%
  2. Booker, C

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Buttigieg, P

    15.8%
  4. Castro, J

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Clinton, H

    15.8%
  6. Harris, K

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Klobuchar, A

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Sanders, B

    10.5%
  9. Warren, E

    15.8%
  10. Yang, A

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  1. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Probably no surprise, but I've followed his campaign closely and looked a lot into the issues in South Bend. The city has challenges, but it has improved under his watch and he is popular among Black people who know him best. Several Black residents who support him have been interviewed by several media outlets (major), but their comments never made it to 'print'. When they questioned the journalists about it they were told they didn't fit the article's focus or was an editorial decision to exclude. They say the majority of the negative press comes from the same 5 people in SB. One is a raging homophobe, btw.

    It's a narrative that works for them. Gets clicks/views.
     
  2. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    It isn't necessarily my opinion that you can't go from mayor of South Bend to the presidency, but what I'm about to write might make it seem like it. When your most relevant political experience is from two terms as mayor of South Bend, they're going to pick those two terms apart, really pick them apart.
     
  3. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    He should absolutely be vetted, it's an important part of the process. I have no problem with reporting the good and bad, my gripe is around foregoing full context for a specific narrative. There is a lot of media cherry-picking when it comes to Pete and race, ignoring Black supporters. A December poll of SB residents found:

    I understand this is how media works, it's just frustrating when you know a full picture is not being provided (which is the way true journalism is supposed to work, btw).

    To be clear, I understand why Black folks might not want to vote for him and respect their decision. What I do not respect is the constant pushing of false narratives and implications of racism — every bit of it on a single candidate.
     
  4. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    He’s an easy target for it too.

    Just like briexit, it wasn’t racist at all as a policy but that’s not how it was reported.

    The British just had the crazy idea that they should take back control of the laws being made in their country that governs them.
     
  5. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Yang or Tulsi are the best options, to me. I don't understand why they're shoehorning Biden in
     
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  6. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    He can't speak coherently in public. How the hell are you just now getting he may be seriously damaged?
     
  7. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Ukraine did it
     
  8. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Damaged politically. Trump got elected being an idiot, so it doesn't matter much.
     
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  9. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Trump says stupid shit but he’s high energy and puts together complete sentences saying it.

    That’s the mystery with Trump. You don’t know if you’re going to get asshole say something stupid or the Trump that just did state of the union.

    Biden’s own people has said their only chance of winning is to keep Biden away from people and to limit him as much as possible
     
  10. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    It's only a bit about vetting, it's more about the opposition winning elections and grabbing headlines in the guise of vetting (or not in some cases). I probably should have added "and twist" to the end of pick apart.
     
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  11. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Trump shouldn't fear "Big Gulp' Bloomberg.
     
  12. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    One of the reasons I'm drawn to the campaign is that they have 'rules of the road' for all staff and supporters and they constantly remind supporters to follow. It comes from the top. In the digital space they are nicest/most positive followers I've seen for any candidate (Booker supporters were really great, too). Is it the best political strategy? Maybe not, but it's a differentiating factor for me.

    Chasten does this every time there are attacks on the campaign.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    There's a "Buttigieg campaign funded by Russian oligarch" rumor that gives me a big eye roll. With the Citizens United and PACs, we accepted that this could and would happen. It means nothing, because literally every campaign has foreign funds now whether they know it or not.
     
  14. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Buttigeg really does look like the MAD Magazine kid.
     
  15. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Oh, Joe. I get what he's trying to do in terms of contrasting experience, but shitting on mayors is maybe not the best overall approach when you're trying to garner broad support from smaller cities and communities.

     
  16. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    And...
     
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  17. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

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  18. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    If the Buttigieg campaign is smart they'll work that Biden quote into their ads. And they can easily do it without trashing him.
     
  19. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    There’s no way we don’t see heavy regulations on the Internet soon.

    It’s really [uck fay]ing up how the establishment does businesses and the intellectual dark web movement shit.
     
  20. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    There’s no no need to trash him. It’s getting to the point that it’s sad with him.
     

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