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I was addressing what IP posted. They’re the one talking about him just being another entitled white guy out of touch.

I hadn’t heard anyone call him Mayo Pete till he posted that link.

That’s what happens with tribalism. The tribes go to war and that’s what we’re seeing out of the left.

 

As a white male with some credentials, I just don't think this is on the mark. It isn't about how he sounds or looks cited in that opinion article. It was the choices he makes juxtaposed with what he says.

 

I also haven't heard "Mayo Pete," and think it is a nasty remark. No human being should be associated with mayonnaise.

 

We can agree on that for sure.

 

No, not fake. Perhaps legitimize his nationalism is a clearer, me accurate description, but not fake news ( God, I hate that stupid [uck fay]ing term).

In any event, Owens spews exactly the same type of invective you purport to hate in Trump critics, actually worse.

She's of the Milo Yiannapolis, Mike Cernovich variety, utter leeches on the discourse of American politics.

 

While not my preferred choice, I have no deep objection to Pete. So I am interested to hear from those who do, to understand their point of view. I think his detractors need to be careful not to paint him into a corner. He may be more amenable to their wishes than they realize. Today in Nashua he just addressed the "criticism" (an unfair one, very wealthy people are Americans too) that he had many very wealthy donors/backers. He said that he appreciates all his supporters, and will of course expect that they will pay their fair share of taxes. Now, a cynic can say that could mean anything. To me, it is very different from a position where changes in the tax structure are off the table. I think some want their candidate or nothing, but don't appreciate that all of these candidates are not necessarily who we perceive or think them to be anyway. And the platform is not 100% the candidate's.

 

He can be an entitled white guy, have people not like him for it and still not mean it's about blaming smart white men for all the problems.

I understand clearly the type of person they are describing, while not sure it really fits with Buttigieg.

 

She didnt praise hitler as you posted. Not close to being true

 

She said his problem was trying to be a globalist. Regardless, as I noted, she's everything you say you hate in Trump critics, yet you like her. Why?

 

Because people who accuse her of praising Hitler, dont.

 

Huh? So, basically, you are saying you're being hypocritical by supporting her style while consistently, and endlessly, complaining about those who do the same for the left?

Like I said, I think you have a severe blind spot for things you don't agree with, which is not terrible, since it can be hard not to do so. However, you make significant hay about the awful behavior and actions, as well as discourse, of those whom you disagree.

 

"She praised hitler".
Why tf would I not try to be as far away as possible. That's not having an issue with another opinion. Not my problem you are immune to so much bs you lose track of it.
So the discourse after I brought her up has been
-that scares me
-not surprising
-she praised Hitler
Yet you are surprised I would want to be as far opposite of that brilliance as possible?

 

Because you are trying to hang on to this as if it were the only remark on the whole matter. If it's the phrasing you object to, I clarified it for you. You complain about people not wanting to discuss her, yet you offer nothing to discuss. Forget about the Hitler comment or discuss it, whatever. But, don't fail to do something you adjust others of not doing.

 

I read this earlier and have seen the same take previously. While this is a pretty blatant hate piece only listing what the author perceives as negative attributes with a healthy dose of conspiracy theory, I understand the main point. He's too polished for their liking, almost constructed. I get that. They leave out the other main reason they hate him - he's not far enough left. They eschew pragmatism in favor of revolution. Pete is not that candidate.

As a going on 50 year old I obviously have a different perspective and cannot speak personally to the millennial experience. What I can say I have seen folks like Pete many times before and often up close. Some folks don't like his type because they seem constructed and often don't emote enough, some folks hate them because their achievement feeds their own inferiority complex.

As a gay man I can tell you Pete screams "Best Little Boy in the World" to me. It's a real thing and my brother and I are examples though to a much lesser extent than someone like Pete.

 

BTW, Bernie is going to win NH, but Pete is drawing massive crowds there today (allegedly the largest of any candidate this cycle). Hoping he gets a strong second.

 

Only way he could beat Trump is if he is allowed to continue cheating.

He's the shitty mayor of South Bend.

Sickle cell anemia has a higher approval from black voters than he does.

 

Buttigieg kinda reminds me of Leslie Knope. I kind of liked Leslie Knope.

 

I don’t have a major objection to him but agree with the part of the article about him moulding his stance/viewpoint to fit the room he is in. He started out much more progressive until he realized he could benefit significantly more from running on a more moderate platform.

He also does remind me of a lot the try hard kids that did student government in college and enjoyed the power it gave them a little too much.

 

I've never seen a politician who didnt talk to everybody in the room like he was on their side.

 

Warren running her campaign pandering
to the margins of society is an interesting strategy