George Floyd: Derek Chauvin Trial

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by VolDad, Mar 29, 2021.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    A verdict has been reached. That was fast.
     
  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I don't see how that's a good thing if you are the defendant.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Honestly, I thought the defense played right into the prosecution's hands at the closing. The things they were telling the jury to ask themselves were, uh, kind of not in the favor of the defendant. Was he authorized to exhibit that force? Well, no, according to the state and the city police...
     
  4. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I don't see how he's not guilty of 2nd degree, but I've given up on predict these things.
     
  5. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    dunno. i'd imagine people are more likely to reach a verdict of not guilty quickly since you are freeing someone instead of putting them away, but i don't know the stats.
     
  6. Johnny Utah

    Johnny Utah Well-Known Member

    Third degree murder followed by manslaughter is the most likely outcome.
     
  7. Johnny Utah

    Johnny Utah Well-Known Member

    I’ve always heard a quick verdict is bad for the defendant(s).
     
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  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I think the conventional wisdom is that the jury looking at it over and over from every angle means they are looking for something beyond reasonable doubt. I.e., they are working against a starting place of doubt. If you aren't working from a place of extinguishing reasonable doubt, it goes quickly. I have no idea of the stats either, though.
     
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  9. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    of coure oj was a quick verdict.
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Lol, I think some of those jurors knew what they were voting before the trial even started.
     
  11. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    Hard for me to see 3rd degree murder here. Honestly surprised they didn't drop it.

    I think he should be convicted of the manslaughter charge but won't be surprised to see a guilty verdict for 2nd degree murder.
     
  12. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    the glove didn't fit
     
  13. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    What's the best TV I can go loot tonight?
     
  14. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    If Chewbaccah is a Wookie.........
     
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  15. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    i bet Tenacious D has a decent one
     
  16. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    If you take all the politics out of it, DC is clearly guilty of 2nd degree at least... what I don’t like is the process being hijacked by the “give us what we want or we’re gonna riot” crowd.
     
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  17. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    lol
     
  18. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Not premeditated but definitely intentional. What’s so hard to understand about this?
     
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  19. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    I'm laughing at the entire bolded part, but I do wonder why you included the "at least." Do you think they should have charged him with something more than the 3 charges they're looking at?
     
  20. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    No. DC didn’t go in looking to kill GF, but it’s clearly 2nd degree. Clearly. You don’t kneel on somebody’s neck for 9 plus minutes and then say “dang, how the heck did THAT happen??!?”...
     
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