How many wins makes 2019 a successful year?

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by Joshua Arnold, Apr 24, 2019.

  1. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    very favorable schedule. if he knows what he's doing 8-4 shouldn't be a problem.
     
  2. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I think he'll get it. He's got arguably the best coaching staff in the east as a whole.
     
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  3. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    He's got one of the best coaching staffs in the country.
     
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  4. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    if the line produces the team produces.
     
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  5. Beechervol

    Beechervol Super Moderator

    I don't really disagree with that at all.

    If he wins 8 he hasn't cemented anything other than he's headed in the right direction. 7 does that to a lesser degree. Neither are numbers that make anybody happy in year 3 or 4.
     
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  6. hohenfelsvol

    hohenfelsvol Beer run

    If you aren't counting interns
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    as long as the win total improves year over year, I am fine.
     
  8. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    And don't habitually piss away double digit leads
     
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  9. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Fixed.
     
  10. BigOrangeBeech

    BigOrangeBeech Poster of the Month, July 2014 and recruiting guy!

    And kick FGs from the 3 inch line.
     
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  11. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    If only we could have gotten rid of Butch two years sooner a lot would be different. Those first two full recruiting classes of his went completely squandered.
     
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  12. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Amazing what one Hail Mary against Georgia did to this program.
     
  13. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Eh, [uck fay] Georgia
     
  14. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Except, who was the AD, and what are the chances they were going to be squandered anyway?
     
  15. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    This is how I'd break it down.

    As close to sure wins as it gets:
    Georgia State
    UAB (yes, they were good last year. They also lose more production than anyone else in the country)
    UTC

    Should win:
    Kentucky (away, but they lose a *ton* from a team we beat last year)
    BYU (they weren't good last year but had a lot of close losses and one upset win, so they're no sure thing)

    Tossups bordering on should win:
    South Carolina (we were close last year, we're at home this year, and we return more production than them)
    Vandy (this team was running on fumes by the time we played them last year--they weren't that much better than us--plus this year is at home, and we return more than they do)

    Tossups bordering on should lose:
    Mississippi State (they lose a decent amount but have earned the benefit of the doubt at this point--they may not be an amazing team, but they should be solid. We do get them at home)
    Missouri (they're not that much more talented than us, but it's hard to put this in the "should win" category given that we've been smacked around two of our last three times in Columbia, plus last year at home, and their transfer QB is good)

    Should lose:
    Georgia
    Florida (considered putting this in the "tossup bordering on should lose," but they return a fair amount from a team that was better than us last year, they're at home, and we always play our worst against Florida)

    As close to sure loss as it gets:
    Alabama


    That's a pretty symmetrical grouping, with the expectation looking like 7-5, and with us about equally likely to lose one that looks like a win and to win one that looks like a loss. On the other hand, that's still four games in the "tossup" category. We improve a little bit faster than expected or those other teams take a little bigger step back than expected, and 9-3 goes on the table pretty quickly. Obviously, if we don't improve as expected, 5-7 is on the table, but that's pretty much the "start looking for a new coach" scenario.

    tl;dr agree with hohen, 7-5 is the expectation, 8-4 or better is a win
     
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  16. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    It sucks that we have to take into consideration home vs away against the likes of Vandy, KY, SC, and MSU.
     
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  17. OrangeBlood79

    OrangeBlood79 Contributor

    7 is the floor, 8 is a good season, 9 is the ceiling.
     
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  18. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    That's me. We'll see how good this staff is.
     
  19. TDVol1989

    TDVol1989 Always Be Menstruating

    I am a negavol. I confess. 9 is successful. Anything less involves various degrees of excuses. The end of year collapse last year was very Dooley Year 1 or 2...depending on if you accept a year 0. Either way, it was the KY loss year.

    I don’t think Pruitt was a remotely successful game coach last year. I have my doubts for a guy that knows so much about football. Since he doesn’t BS I will buy a few shares of Pruitt stock. But, I don’t see how our players aren’t more talented than 9 opponents.
     
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  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    you don't see how Florida is more talented?
     

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