Modern Healthcare

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by NorrisAlan, May 18, 2016.

  1. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    Yeah, and what happens when the kid wants his ding dongs back?
     
  2. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Nothing that elective.
     
  3. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Mylan announced they are going to offer a generic epipen at half price.
     
  4. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I still don't understand why this thing costs $600 and the "generic" will cost only $300. It is a dollar worth of medicine in a $2 plastic syringe. I understand covering other costs, etc. But why on this one product?

    The whole thing just smells incredibly fishy to me, and I am not sure I can be convinced otherwise.
     
  5. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    I don't think that's the pricing and certainly doesn't cover RnD, which was egregiously expensive, no doubt.
     
  6. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    The EpiPen has been around for 40 years, and only recently skyrocketed in costs. I don't think this is an RnD issue with the EpiPen.
     
  7. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I'd say it's high because you generally sell only one package to each individual every two to three years
     
  8. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    They expire after a year. You think the average person stretches that?
     
  9. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Once a year, if you are honoring the expiration date.
     
  10. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Meh. Every change to the delivery and the formulation requires a brutal FDA process.
     
  11. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    And that I can understand. But the spike is odd, don't you think? They were charging a certain amount for decades, then the rights to the brand were sold to Mylan in 2007 and suddenly the prices start going up and up and up.

    I am sure it is a systemic issue, and not just Mylan. But it is very ugly looking, to me.
     
  12. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Well there you go. Obama did it.
     
  13. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Mylan's exec board has a stock kicker that hits if they get their earnings per share up to a certain amount by March 2018, I believe. It'd net the board a couple million, but that'd be one hell of a long play, since they started raising the price so long ago.
     
  14. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    It was undoubtedly a part of the purchase analysis.
     
  15. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    Prices of yachts and Leer jets aren't what they were 10 years ago. Paying for politicians isn't cheap either.
     
  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    not to far off. apparently mylan gets 50% of the purchase price while 5 years ago it was 90%.
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    The CEO said something about trying to get a % from insurance increasing price? I think?
     
  18. smokysbark

    smokysbark Chieftain

    A vial of epinephrine and a 1cc syringe is $10. It's a sub-Q injection. Not as convenient but a hell of a lot cheaper.
     
  19. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I don't think I would want to have to pull out a syringe, draw 1cc of epinephrine, remove the air from the syringe, and then inject if I am having an attack.

    Unless you can pre-load the syringe, but I would think that would not be possible, hence the invention of the EpiPen in the first place. And I think this shows that the EpiPen has no business costing $600.
     
  20. smokysbark

    smokysbark Chieftain

    It's only a subcutaneous injection so there is really no worry about flicking air bubbles out of the syringe. Air bubbles really don't cause any issue in the fatty layer underneath the skin where the epinephrine is administered but I see your point.
     

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