President Trump Work & Drug Tests for Subsidies

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by Tenacious D, Apr 12, 2018.

  1. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    I've done what I could, I've sent emails, refused to buy tickets of any kind, haven't attended any UT athletic events and refused to buy any UT merchandise.

    So, yes. I have.
     
  2. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    So, making an anonymous phone call to report abuse is "huge"?

    Ok.
     
  3. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I didn’t donate 100 million dollars. That was pretty huge of me. Next year, if things don’t get better I might not donate 200 million.

    Who did you send emails to?
     
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  4. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Well we have [itch bay]ed about abuse of disability claims on here how many times? A dozen? How’s that compare to the level of [itch bay]ing about UT sports?
     
  5. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Gonna have to plead the 5th.
     
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  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    There is a difference between having the ability to do something, and not doing it, and having no ability.

    I’m willing to do what I need to do to fix the UTAD, that is within my power to do so.

    So, like being told to report, I’m willing to be told what to do.

    What do I need to do?
     
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  7. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Well, according to NYY, your options appear to be file a meaningless report or complain on the internet.
     
  8. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Check and check.
     
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  9. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    We don't trust the government to not waste money on entitlement recipients, but we do trust the government to not waste even more money on drug testing entitlement recipients despite ample evidence that these programs waste a shit ton of money?
     
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  10. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Yeah, I like the idea in theory. In reality, it would be a debacle.
     
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  11. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    I want to be clear. In theory I have no issue with drug testing welfare recipients just like damn near everyone has to pass a drug test to get a job. That said, I would rather waste 100 of my tax dollars and let some people slip through the cracks than waste 110 of my tax dollars and let a few less people slip through the cracks
     
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  12. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    So the people who are giving their money to the recipients get drug tested and that is okay but it is bad to test the recipient.

    Something does not seem right about that.
     
  13. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    I understand your logic. I also see drugs as major hindrance towards getting back on their feet. I am not for using it as punitive without a 3 strikes type rule after treatment.
     
  14. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Does government have a duty to provide care after a positive test?
     
  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Do you know of any government assistance for someone who tests positive for drugs? I think they're just dropped.
     
  16. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Do you mean do they, or should they?

    I see addiction as in the realm of mental and physical health. I and do think the government should be playing a much larger role in that arena. Not doing so has allowed some of these issues to metastacize
     
  17. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    I'm all for drug testing, but I don't think our government can do it without it being a gigantic cluster[uck fay]
     
  18. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Govt officials should be tested for opiates, Xanax, etc. Someone maybe on antidepressant/Xanax/Percocet telling others not to smoke weed has always been amusing.
     
  19. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    If testing is mandated, and someone fails the test, does government have a duty to help that person?

    Because now you $100 per person is $250, for the benefits, the testing, and then the treatment.
     
  20. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    No; and there is also no duty to provide assistance. Seems cheaper in the long run to give a little more assistance up front to get them being a productive member of society over generational assistance. I would be interested seeing what the ROI is, if anything.
     

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