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Discussion in 'Politicants' started by fl0at_, Jun 7, 2021.

  1. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Does anyone believe the SC will try to outlaw interracial marriages?
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    In a way they already have left it up to the states
     
  3. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Do you believe any state would outlaw interracial marriages?
     
  4. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Not sure the SCOTUS can "outlaw" anything, but can make it so that protections are no longer guaranteed.

    For instance, they didn't outlaw abortion. They took away the guaranteed right to it in all states. Now, individual states can outlaw it, the Congress of the USA can outlaw it nationwide, and some states can keep it legal.

    As I understand things.
     
  5. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Do you believe Congress or the states would do it?
     
  6. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    At some point in time, it is possible. It will be gay marriage next, and then outlawing trans surgeries, and then it will swing around to the "keep to your kind" stuff. I don't know if people will go for it, but you only need about a third of a state to do it and the reasoning for it being unconstitutional has already been weakened.

    The court has chosen to rule illogical based on politics, and in so doing undermined decades of precedent.

    But you know, I'm just so wild and crazy. Not like I haven't heard many people of every background essentially condemn interracial marriages... oh wait. I have.
     
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  7. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I can't see it happening. If it does there will be war.
     
  8. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    No, I don't think any state will outlaw interracial marriages. I think it is a too integrated (pardon the pun) now, and cannot be made illegal anywhere. I think some people may try, but no on will do this with any kind of vigor.

    I think gay marriage is in danger, trans rights are in danger and certain religious issues could arise.
     
  9. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I couldn't see Republicans doing a lot of what they've done over the past 3 years. So...
     
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  10. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    Depends on how far we travel theocracy road. I'm telling you if we continue on this course all bets are off.
     
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  11. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

  12. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    The trans surgery thing will be interesting as well. I don't think there's much of an appetite for outlawing trans surgeries as a whole. The right's focus is mostly on children and the age at which these things can start happening.

    Some would argue that the current court is fixing failings of a past court. People on both sides of the aisle have been criticizing Roe since it came into being.
     
  13. Indy

    Indy Pronoun Analyst

    People should start pushing now to get this stuff included in Constitutional Amendments. Scoff at it all you want. Say it will never happen. The later you start, the longer it will take. And if abortion had been approached this way from the beginning, we may not be in this situation right now.

    Isn't that what RBG basically said?
     
  14. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Listen and pay attention to Republicans when they talk. They tell you everything they’re going do.
     
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  15. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    If you put your faith in people, prepare to be disappointed.

    Interracial marriage is not a legal right, if SCOTUS rules consistently. It's simply not illegal. These two things aren't the same, and treating them as the same is folly.

    I don't know why anyone would trust that anything not explicitly allowed was safe, anymore.
     
  16. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    How can anyone push for anything when people like you argue all day that something that isn't a constitutional amendment won't be overturned? But yes, all of these things should be made Constitutional amendments, since it's impossible to have any form of civil rights without an amendment, apparently.

    The mistake people made with Roe v. Wade was accepting that it was settled law. It wasn't, and now that will need to change. It's unlikely to happen, and more likely to be federally banned.

    The mistake people make with Obergefell was accepting that it was settled law, because of Roe. It isn't, and now that will need to change. It's likely to be overturned. It is possible it is federally banned.

    The mistake people make with Loving is accepting that it is settled law. (Because 94%!) It isn't, and is being argued that it doesn't need to be changed...
     
  17. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    I put very little faith in our government (which is made up of people).
     
  18. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Like I said there would be war and the small amount of people that would agree to do this would regret it. Imo
     
  19. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    So basically, we need to pass about 178056 constitutional amendments because SCOTUS has decided the current legal protections for various groups can be completely thrown out the window, not because of law, but because they would rather force their theological doctrine on the masses.
     
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  20. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Isn't originalism awesome!?!?
     

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