The New Boxing Thread

Discussion in 'Sports' started by kidbourbon, Jan 25, 2012.

  1. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Actually, Mayweather didn't really run much this fight, McGregor just punched himself out and Mayweather walked him down, which is something he normally doesn't do. If you think it's just a matter of jogging, then, one, an mma fighter should have no problem getting the cardio built up for such a style of fight and, two, it probably means you aren't as knowledgeable as you think.
     
  2. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Again, no MMA fighter is going to win a decision against a high profile boxer. Lesser profile boxers have trouble winning a decision against high profile boxers.

    Thus, the only way an MMA fighter is going to win is to put the other guy down, or let the other guy tire himself out. The last isn't an option with Mayweather, leaving only one route to victory for McGregor. So of course he was going to tire himself out.

    MMA has these things called submissions. You should read about them. It'll help you understand why, no, MMA fighters don't necessarily have or need better cardio.

    It's a lot of work on the ground, and it's exhausting, and because of that... submissions.
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Why aren't they going to win a decision, because they aren't good enough at boxing? Whose fault is that? And, contrary to what you are suggesting, there are many different ways to box besides just slinging punches. There's counter punching, defensive styles, volume punchers, power punchers, pot shotters, pressure fighters, etc., etc. I mean, is your argument that MMA fighters just aren't good enough to get into the ring?

    And, you're also giving me mixed messages on the tiring out part. MMA fighters don't need, or have, the energy to tire out a guy like Mayweather, but submissions are ....exhausting? Besides, if the cardio part is the problem for MMA fighters that's not an insurmountable obstacle. Simply "jogging" isn't a way to win a fight and Mayweather wasn't jogging, anyway. He let McGregor punch himself out, standing in front of him because he didn't respect his power and then walked him down late in the fight. Had nothing to do with jogging. Mayweather is a thinking, tactical fighter known for adjusting during a fight and last night was pretty easy for him.
     
  4. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Can't you submit in boxing?
     
  5. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Sure, quit on your stool, go down and stay down or say "No mas" because Sugar Ray Leonard is embarrassing you.
     
  6. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Because boxing is, has and always will protect boxing, like any other sport. That's why no MMA fighter will win a decision.

    How many "controversial" decisions have you witnessed in your expertise? How many times has scoring been controversial between boxers?

    And you think that's going to go away? You are that stupid; I don't know why I bother.
     
  7. NashVol11

    NashVol11 Well-Known Member

    So, McGregor couldn't win a decision because it was rigged, and what looked like one fighter being a way better boxer than the other was just McGregor pretending to be undisciplined because he knew it was rigged. And somehow that means that Mayweather isn't simply better at boxing, but is only better at running? Is that what you're going with?
     
  8. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    McGregor was foolish in thinking he was going to outbox Mayweather. Should have launched every punch he had in first two rounds.
     
  9. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    That's it? That's why I'm stupid? Because I think that they simply aren't good enough boxers to get a decision and not that it's going to be a situation where they outbox the boxer, but get screwed in the decision? OK.
     
  10. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Conor landed 30 more punches in 2 fewer rounds than Manny. If anyone is kidding themselves, it's you. Conor has a very limited boxing skill set and somehow managed to do significantly better than most pros could dream of against Mayweather. Without question, Conor won 3-5 rounds of the fight. Mayweather would be lucky to make it to the 3 minute mark of round one.

    Boxing took yet another hit last night.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    So the pound for pound best ever took 10 rounds and lost the first 3 to a guy who never boxed, and I am supposed to be impressed? What a joke. The "best ever" struggled with a noob from another sport. There's no way to spin that in Mayweather's favor.
     
  12. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Zero chance? Just a "good" boxer? An MMA fighter just went 10 rounds (winning his share of them) with what is unquestionably a boxer that is pretty far north of being just "good" and you want to bring absolutes to the discussion? If Conor doesn't gas, he may have out pointed the greatest point fighter ever. In his first boxing match.
     
  13. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    Ok. And if they fought under mma rules and Conor did exactly what he wanted, he would have Floyd choked out or knocked out within minutes. Not 10 rounds in to the fight and having lost several rounds.
     
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  14. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    Mayweather's not the best ever because he cut guys down with KOs. He's not even the best ever, but that's beside the point. He was never going to KO him in the first three rounds and, in fact, specifically said he was going to let McGregor throw punches and wear down in the first few rounds. He, pretty much, always does, not to mention the fact that he is 40 and fighting for the first time in 2 years. If anyone is surprised that McGregor lasted a while and Mayweather didn't throw much in the first few rounds, then they aren't familiar with Mayweather and think the "Best Ever" means he took dudes out like Tyson. Other than a cheap shot against Victor Ortiz, Mayweather hasn't KOed anyone in the first few rounds since 1998. An early KO was just never going to happen and Mayweather has always been the type of fighter who lets other fighters beat themselves. There was not a point in the fight last night where Mayweather was not in control.
     
  15. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    That's because Mayweather respected Pac's power far more than McGregor's and simply walked him down, letting McGregor flail. Seriously, you really didn't understand what you were watching last night. That fight went exactly how Mayweather planned it and I'm not even a fan of his.
     
  16. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    A rematch between them under MMA rules would absolutely flatten the numbers from the boxing match. It wouldn't even be close. No boxer wants to get embarrassed. Which is exactly what would happen.
     
  17. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    It's easy to say when it won't happen, but I guarantee that it wouldn't be as simple as you say.
     
  18. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    You do realize Conor was at worst 2-2 after 4 right? The 4th round is when Conor started gassing.
     
  19. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    And ruin a chance at 100 million?
     
  20. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    And, are you still failing to make the connection between the two or do you still really believe Mayweather only threw six punches in the first round because McGregor was controlling the fight?
     

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