POLITICS Theresa May out as PM.

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by Savage Orange, May 24, 2019.

  1. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    We get jury duty from our driver's license here. So I registered to vote the next cycle. I throw my jury duty crap in the garbage
     
  2. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    But Wyoming doesn't get as many electoral votes as California
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    It still has a significantly smaller number of voters per electoral vote than does California or a number of other states.
     
  4. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    I always thought electoral college votes were based the population of the state, and that's why the census was so important. But I could, and probably am, be making that up
     
  5. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    You aren't making it up. However, there is a limit to the number of representatives in the House (435) and each state is guaranteed one, plus 2 senators. So, every state gets a minimum of 3. The limitations with the required number create the imbalance.
     
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  6. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Winner take all created the biggest discrepancy between the popular vote and the electoral results in 2016.
     
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  7. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    I used to be pro electoral college, but the arguments for it have fallen apart for me.

    1. “One person, one vote” just makes sense to me. We’re all voting for the same president and our votes should all be weighted equally.
    2. The electoral college seems to be doing less to protect small states and more to dramatically increase the influence of a few midwestern states. I want our politicians fighting for votes everywhere, not just trying to swing a few thousand voters in Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.
    3. Under the current system, ballots cast by democrats in red states and republicans in blue states may as well go in the trash.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Around 2015 or 16 I had a thread on rank order voting. It seems like a good way to get results more reflective of the mainstream rather having a tug of war.
     
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  9. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Right on time.

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  10. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    Time will tell if Johnson will be good for the UK, but his election has already increased support for Scottish independence.
     
  11. cpninja

    cpninja Member

  12. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    1. A general election may be Johnson’s best chance for a hard Brexit. He won’t have a popular vote majority for another Brexit referendum, but he may have one in the House of Commons if he can come to some sort of agreement with Nigel Farage.
    2. Brexit won’t lead to the breakup of the EU, but it may lead to the breakup of the UK.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    oh, this absolutely sets up the hard brexit. done and done. because the remainers are split across two uncooperative parties. now it just remains to see what the consequences will be.
     
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  14. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I don't have any idea how parliament works.
     
  15. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I'm starting to think it may be more incompetent than the US system.
     
  16. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    So I have barely kept up with this, but do I understand correctly that if there is a hard brexit and they just say "goodbye" that they will basically have no trade agreements and treaties with these countries of the EU?
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    correct, so far as I understand it.
     
  18. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    That seems........................dumb.
     
  19. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    there are effectively 3 positions, all in the minority. hard leave, soft leave, and stay. Soft leave teamed up with hard leave for awhile, began splintering, and now is enjoying temporary common cause with stay. but the end result will be an election in which the two parties for which there are stay members will not coalition together and a party who is dedicated solely to hard leave is cooperating to not run against the leave party who just transitioned from semi hard leave to full hard leave... so that's that.

    simultaneously, a majority want to leave and a majority don't want a hard Brexit. but it is looking like it is hard or stay.
     

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