Tragedy of the Commons: class experiment

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by IP, Jul 15, 2015.

  1. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    Is like to see a historic breakdown of answers by grade average.
     
  2. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    What's a valid teaching point? That Americans tend not to sit around trying to communally squeak by with fellow mediocrities? Pretty sure anyone paying attention knows that by the time they are about 10. If they don't understand that, they shouldn't be in college.
     
  3. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I am willing to bet it is evenly dispersed. You have people that will be 4-6 points from the next grade level in all brackets. Plus you are going to have those like in this thread that will vote six no matter what.
     
  4. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    I don't need the points. In fact, my return would be a lot more than six. I would relish the two points I screwed each and every human mediocrity who actually needed them out of as if they were added to my grade. Watching the slackers who needed the two points to get by fail would be a reward far greater than the mere six points.
     
  5. emainvol

    emainvol Administrator

    Yup, add me to the six points crew.
     
  6. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    Bingo
     
  7. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I don't understand the contempt for "slackers" here. I see a lot of if he needs it he doesn't deserve it. What if he has an 89 and you have a 91. He isn't a slacker by any means, but some here would take it as a personal affront (from what I can tell) if he was given a boost of two points to make a 91 vs your now 93.

    Not saying one side is right and the other is wrong, I just simply don't understand the apparent contempt.

    Edit: if the teacher was taking 1 point from everyone that has a B or higher and giving it out, I would understand. But this has no affect on you at all.
     
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  8. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    If the class is graded on a curve or a capped number of As, Bs, etc., then I go with 6.

    Otherwise, I'd always go with 2. Just my personality.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Given that you and others still think "6" is the right answer for "maximum return," you and many others have failed to learn this freshman elective course lesson.
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Whoa, you can't have it both ways. You said 6 was the maximum return and that is why you would choose it, now you're saying you don't "need" the points and just enjoy watching the class burn. That's two totally different arguments.
     
  11. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    If the cut between an A and B is 90, it certainly has an effect. You just artificially gave someone something I earned, thus diminishing my accomplishment.
     
  12. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    Six is the maximum extrinsic return. Watching losers looking to others to bail them out of their own failure is the maximum intrinsic return. When you put in the work, you can most certainly have it both ways. That's life.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Let's say you have an 89. Pretend you're someone else with an 89, if you have to.
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Fair enough, but I maintain that anyone who puts down 6 while expecting to get 6 points is an idiot.
     
  15. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    I'm making the assumption that the rest of the class is filled with socialist nimrods concerned with the collective good. Thus, I get my 6 and the hippies can go to a Widespread Panic show to celebrate their two. Everyone wins.
     
  16. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    I guarantee you said class is graded on a curve and you make an excellent point. 6 all the way. 2 points just floats everyone's boat equally. does next to nothing for you unless you assume the prof is factoring this into his curve already.
     
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  17. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    no i'm putting down six figuring I either get six while 90%+ get 2 (meaning i'm net 4 over 90% of the class), or everyone gets zero. good risk reward in my benefit. .
     
  18. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    Then I get a B. I certainly don't feel ripped off that the rest of the class didn't give me something I didn't earn. This is just more "Everybody should get a trophy, everyone is special" bullshit.
     
  19. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    let's pretend I have an 85. and btw we are talking 2 points on one exam. the chance of that making any difference in my overall grade is pretty damn slim. 6 points is far more likely to change my grade than 2.
     
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  20. hatvol96

    hatvol96 Well-Known Member

    I never expect to be given anything. In fact, my most likely course of action if faced with this nonsense would be to ask if I could transfer into a class taught by a real professor and not some wannabe Cub Scout troop leader.
     

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