POLITICS Virginia a testing ground for 2020.

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by TheOrangeEmpire, Dec 20, 2019.

  1. IP

    IP Administrator

    You're limited by money, too. It's a right, so maybe guns should be free?

    "Right to bear arms" in no way insinuates an unlimited arsenal for every person. The arms themselves are still available under this proposed law. How often have you purchased more than one hand gun a month in your life?
     
  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Oh, so people killed with knives don't matter as much as people with guns.

    Got it.
     
  3. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

  4. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    It doesn't matter if I have, it matters that I am being infringed upon.
     
  5. IP

    IP Administrator

    People killed with knives count the same, and there are less of them. The flipside is to argue that with each gun murder, all the victims count a little less... which I suppose is kind of true from a "don't ever change a damn thing about guns" perspective.
     
  6. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Yeah people with knifes don’t like to attack people that might have guns.

    London is more violent now than before when people had more freedom to carry a firearm.

    It’s just instead of a gun the new tool is a knife.
     
  7. IP

    IP Administrator

    You haven't demonstrated that the 2nd amendment gives one the right to purchase unlimited firearms. I can make the same claim that guns should be freely distributed, since the 2nd amendment says nothing about having to purchase them. Charging money for a gun infringes on my right to bear them! It's my right!
     
  8. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    You are a liberal, I'm surprised this isn't more widespread. I'm sure if the left as pro-gun it would be.
     
  9. IP

    IP Administrator

    This is your claim. Support it. Show me the statistic of London having more murders than when people had "more freedom to carry a firearm." Or any statistic to support the claim.
     
  10. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    I just posted a NRP article talking about that
     
  11. IP

    IP Administrator

    I own guns. There are plenty of people left of the GOP who do. I don't see these laws as any kind of violation of the 2nd amendment or threatening in any way. If you don't see free guns as guaranteed, then I don't see how you can honestly believe "unlimited guns" is guaranteed. It clearly references a regulated militia. Who's regulating it, Card? How does that fit in to this interpretation?
     
  12. TheOrangeEmpire

    TheOrangeEmpire Active Member

    Charlottesville as an entity was the lead agency and ignored the threat assessments presented to them. It was only after the chaos ensued anyone was allowed to directly deal with the threats.
     
  13. IP

    IP Administrator

    Your story was from 2018. The link I shared was from 2019, and shows that the murder rate of London is lower than most major US cities. So no, that isn't advancing your claim. It is undermining it.
     
  14. TheOrangeEmpire

    TheOrangeEmpire Active Member

    I got video of Alex Jones in his bearcat. Not sure how to go about posting the video or if anyone actually cares.
     
  15. IP

    IP Administrator

    Deal with how?
     
  16. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    It doesn't say it is required, only that a well-regulated militia and that to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
     
  17. IP

    IP Administrator

    Is your second amendment right being violated by not being able to easily and freely obtain an RPG launcher? Or build a pipe bomb?
     
  18. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    According to the courts - no. And I respect that.

    My guess is that if you were to ask Madison or Jefferson (esp Jefferson), they would to some degree say yes.
     
  19. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Although it would be pretty cool to have a tank in the back yard.
     
  20. TheOrangeEmpire

    TheOrangeEmpire Active Member

    When the initial unlawful assembly was declared it was in essence a request and not an order and everything devolved from there.
     

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