You can’t be pro-life and pro-gun.

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by VolDad, May 2, 2016.

  1. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    That must be exhausting
     
  2. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator


    so you're against minimum wage laws because your pro-choice
     
  3. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Sure, of course you can deconstruct it further. I wasn't trying to give a philosophically precise definition of every term in the sentence, and I don't think I need to in order to show that it can be phrased in a way that doesn't require being anti-war, anti-self-defense, and anti-gun. Now the background commitments that may incline someone towards being pro-life are doubtless going to affect their views on other things, but the pro-life position itself doesn't mandate others.
     
  4. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    I agree with everything TV has said in this thread and will probably agree with his future posts if he keeps going.
     
  5. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    I don't know what is going on in that text, but the idea that Christians are called to resist rather than suffer is a long way from the New Testament that I've been reading. Here's one guy's take on the text you referenced. It is an odd text to be sure and completely at odds with Jesus healing the guy's ear and rebuking Peter for attacking him with one of the two swords referenced in this passage just a few hours later.

    http://www.thegoodbookblog.com/2014/feb/25/let-the-one-who-has-no-sword-buy-one-the-biblical-/
     
  6. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You aren't mean. You are a shithead. Each time you open your mouth, excrement falls out. All I can figure is that you dictate to Siri the posts that appear here because I can't figure out how the feces would flow through your fingers.

    And yes, if you do not understand how certain very large groups of very bright people--like, say, the Catholic Church--might equate abortion with the destruction of life, then you are an ignorant asshole as well as just simply an asshole.
     
  7. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You seem to have no problem being a judgmental jackass when evaluating other people. Do you really have that big of a problem with a Christian making a judgment?

    EDIT: I don't know why some of my profanities appear as stars and some as actual profanities, but that decision seems to be google's, not mine.
     
  8. RockyHill

    RockyHill Loves Auburn more than Tennessee.

    I haven't really read any part of this thread thoroughly yet, but the term pro-gun is just inherently too broad.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Ah, so Christ meant a literal sword. That's a new one to me.
     
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'm pro-choice, you can choose to pay more.
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'm a shithead, I'm a jackass, I'm an asshole, etc etc etc, meanwhile I'm discussing positions and ideas while you're discussing me.

    If you can't understand how some people can vehemently disagree with a position and argue against it, then you're simply a hypocrite. I'm going to keep discussing viewpoints. The personal shit and amateur psychological profiling is whatever.
     
  12. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    no he isn't discussing you. He's discussing that your ridiculous positions make you an asshat.
     
  13. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Riiigghht.
     
  14. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    Thats the kind of nonsensical bullshit you try to present as argument, so you can have it back. Anyone who holds a different view than you is a bigot or a hypocrite or amateur psychologist. Truth is, you are too ingrained in your own opinion to recognize another viewpoint and too stupid to realize it.

    Can you not fathom how someone could believe life begins at a different point than you do, idiot? Can you not comprehend how someone might reasonably believe bathrooms should be segregated by sex, dumbass? Can you not understand why some people think capitalism might be better than socialism without actually hating anyone, moron?

    Or do you just drop 'bigot' on the argument and pretend you've made a point?
     
  15. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    In fairness to IP, it's both. His asshat positions are there, sure. It's when he slapped me with "bigotry" that I really started to despise him as a person and not just an ideology.
     
  16. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    No, no. Don't make this into a teenage tantrum. I'm here looking to debate. I can totally understand that people disagree, and that is why I am in engaging them. Your statements towards me are definitely hypocritical, otherwise you'd just understand that I disagree and merrily be on your way. But you don't. You call me a shithead, etc. That's not me, that's you doing that. I don't recall calling anybody a bigot, and I didn't call you an amateur psychologist, I called your little diagnoses concerning me amateur psychological profiling. Don't twist it to put me on that name-calling level. That's your level. You own that.

    What you see as being ingrained in an opinion is actually just arguing one. I'm entering into debate. I do not believe that you are incapable of seeing this, so I'm not sure what to make of you pretending otherwise.

    Yes, I can fathom it, and I can argue with the details and points of their supporting argument to demonstrate why I don't agree. This does not indicate one is an idiot, dumbass, or moron. this is discourse.


    I think you're absolutely making stuff up with your "bigot" comment. The only time I have independently invoked the word that I recall was in the thread with the pizza place/cake maker or whatever. And even then I think I said "bigotry." I don't recall ever calling anyone here a bigot. If you know of somewhere I did, by all means post it. Put it on display.
     
  17. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    In fairness to the English language, his statement didn't make any sense. One can't discuss one without discussing the other.

    What do you mean "bigotry?" I thought you said I was dropping "bigot" in every argument? Which is it? Am I calling people names or am I not? Are you just mad because I don't agree with your silly potty rules?
     
  18. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    You are not here to debate, which is good, as you aren't very well equipped for it. You simply spout a bumper sticker, call a name, and leave on the nearest tangent.

    You are, in my studied opinion, a jerk who isn't really particularly clever, but you do believe you score points with a bunch of left wing extreme mumbo jumbo passed as intellect. It isn't. You are just an ass in a cheap suit of liberalism.

    And i meant bigot, as a label you attempt to apply. That is your attempt at debate bc you are the deadly combination of obnoxious and narrow minded.
     
  19. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    And you are a shithead. See, I displayed it in 5 words.
     
  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Well thanks for that profile, I'll give it the due amount of consideration it warrants.

    This really upset you, I guess. It is the only time I've invoked the term in like 4 years.
     

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