2014 Ballot Initiatives

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  1. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    I have no clue how to find out about judges, who is on the ballot, etc. I usually just abstain out of respect of my ignorance.
     
  2. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I hate the concept of voting for judges, although I don't have the magic answer for the best method of appointing them. Perhaps something more along the lines of peer review.

    Of course, I despise even more the voting of DAs to their job as it usually revolves around being "tough" on criminals, i.e. putting a bunch of people in jail, and the amount of abuse is staggering as a result of some prosecutor trying to look good for the voters.
     
  3. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    All of mine were appointment by Pat McCrory or Bev Perdue, so that didn't help me much. I was able to find some reasonable ground to distinguish between some of them (for instance, there are a couple of races where all former justices of all stripes endorse the same candidate, and there's another race where a guy is listing his NRA membership--along with the word "conservative" about 75 times--on his site), but it is generally tougher to gather info on judges than on legislators
     
  4. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    The sign stuff kills me. "Hey, I found a spot amongst the 500 other signs to make sure people know who is running for City Clerk!"
     
  5. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    That's really only a issue because of mandatory time on some crimes and the war on drugs.
     
  6. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    There have also been a number of instances where prosecutor's hide evidence, push for convictions on people they shouldn't or cave into public pressure, among other problems. Look at how many people have been exonerated by DNA after being put in jail by overzealous prosecutors or the Trayvon Martin case, which was royally screwed up by a DAs office trying to pander to public outrage.
     
  7. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

    I rarely vote for judges since I don't have the first clue about their law credentials. I don't want a judge that's pro life, pro choice, pro rich, or pro poor. I just want a judge that is pro law.
     
  8. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    If there is someone on the ballot and all of my lawyer friends freak out, that gives me a pretty good idea of how to go on them. Very rarely do you get one outside the box.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    The one I voted against also had a throwaway line about "disenfranchised citizens" that seemed inappropriate and superfluous for a judge. I don't care what politics they are, one should be judging as honestly and critically as one can based on what laws exist. It isn't her job to compensate for disenfranchised citizens, it is to interpret and apply the law.
     
  10. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Here is another great thing about ballot initiatives. Is the average Alabama resident really going to understand what a yes or no vote means on this?

     
  11. Low Country Vol

    Low Country Vol Contributor

    Gore lost his home state of tennessee to bush. The same state Clinton had no problem winning in 92 and 96. Win Tennesssee and there would be no hanging chads. Gore only has himself to blame.
     
  12. IP

    IP Super Moderator



    I have no idea what that means and I'll have a PhD next year.
     
  13. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    It requires a 2/3 vote of local body to approve a expenditure of 50K?
     
  14. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    I'm not entirely certain either. I'm not sure anyone does. Different conservative groups oppose each other on their opinions while media outlets generally support it while giving a thin reason why.
     
  15. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    when in doubt I vote no
     
  16. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Well why doesn't it just say that?
     
  17. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Because lawyers wrote it, and they have to over-complicate everything.
     
  18. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    According to the Alabama Fair Ballot Commission, it actually means a 2/3 majority of the Alabama legislature would be required to approve an unfunded expenditure over $50k. The actual wording in the change would mean a cumulative expenditure of $50k or roughly $500 per school board. I like accountability, but this seems like a disaster waiting to happen with such a low threshold being used.
     
  19. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    That's...................low. Did they think it's still 1901?
     
  20. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Debating which station I'll watch tonight. I suppose Fox News, only because I've watched Brit Hume every major election night since 1988.
     

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