POLITICS 2018 Midterms

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by CardinalVol, Oct 5, 2018.

  1. bostonvol

    bostonvol Chieftain

    Well this doesn’t seem normal

     
  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Why does florida insist in paper ballots?
     
  3. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    We still have the "color in the dot" paper ballots in NC (at least in our county).

    And our republican controlled state house/senate just lost their super majority status in this election. You should have seen the amendments the wankers had us voting on, you know they are bad when all the past governors (both R&D) run an add telling you to vote no.
     
  4. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    11/12 of the FL amendments passed. I was shocked.
     
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  5. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    What exactly is wrong with Florida’s election system - for you guys living there? Why do these things always happen?
     
  6. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    • Paper ballots - allegedly safer, but handling is more complex
    • Probably the purplest of all states - lots of very close races
    • Incompetency
     
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  7. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    Is safer better when they screw it up all the time?

    Just seems like it would get fixed.

    Seems like Pennsylvania is pretty purple, but they manage.
     
  8. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    PA is likely a lot more competent. I think the combination of all 3 is the primary factor. And let's be clear, Broward county is a BIG part of the problem.
     
  9. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    The best ballots.
     
  10. Poppa T

    Poppa T Vol Geezer

    In NC 4/6 were passed. At least the 2 worst ones failed. My problem with ALL of them was they inserted this, or similar, language:

    “The General Assembly may prescribe general laws to further define and implement this section.”

    IMO, the purpose of the state constitution is to identify the things that cannot be changed by legislative or executive ruling.

    Giving any bunch of politicians, no matter their tribe, the ability to now further define the amendments, after the fact, is complete BS.
     
  11. tvolsfan

    tvolsfan Chieftain

    So... thoughts about the Florida recounts and the ongoing senate race in Arizona?
     
  12. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Broward does all they can to fight this statement.

    Seems like with every single advamcement we've made in technology we could create a pretty simple electronic voting system for all.
     
  13. NYY

    NYY Super Moderator

    Great now I’ll be singing Purple Rain all day now.
     
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  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'm fine with an electronic system if there is a hard copy that the voter sees
     
  15. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I keep reading about how incompetent these Broward county guys are, but shouldn't this be criminal levels of negligence?

    I don't know that any vote shenanigans took place, but the rules are in place precisely to mitigate this kind of concern ans now we will always have questions about the totals in this county, either way.
     
  16. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    I think a simple electronic machine that then also prints something that looks like a receipt would be great. Receipt gets dropped in the sealed ballot envelope tied back to your pin. These can be checked against each other later if needed.
     
  17. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I'd be fine with this.
     
  18. bostonvol

    bostonvol Chieftain

    You would think. I mean the current Broward County Supervisor of Elections, Brenda Snipes, violated federal law by destroying ballots in 2016, yet she still has a job.
     
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  19. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I know 0 about Florida election law, but this seems like a good summary.

     
  20. gcbvol

    gcbvol Fabulous Moderator

    This is a good breakdown. I think Scott is absolutely correct to call out the history of incompetency and lack of transparency. However, claiming widespread fraud and liberals trying to steal the election (no proof) is irresponsible.

    On the other hand, if there's anyone who would know about fraud it's Rick Scott.
     

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