AJ Johnson trial

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by justingroves, Jul 23, 2018.

  1. NEW COACH

    NEW COACH Contributor

    He told recruits whatever they wanted to hear and when they got here they ruled the roost.
     
  2. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Was this the storyline in 2014?

    1. AJ and the girl had been FWBs for a while
    2. Drae Bowles had a thing for said girl
    3. AJ and girl hook up, consentually
    4. Williams gets involved, somehow
    5. Girl gets raped and/or gets caught with AJ
    6. Girl calls Bowles, said she was raped
    7. Bowles calls his dad, and eventually calls cops
    8. Butch allows team to get Bowles
    9. Strength coach is fired for trying to stop it

    Note - not saying this is what happened, but what I remember being said then.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Not Hurd
     
  4. NEW COACH

    NEW COACH Contributor

    Hurd was getting more more carries than the NFL ROY
     
  5. NEW COACH

    NEW COACH Contributor

  6. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    That's pretty much it
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    While wanting to play WR or te
     
  8. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    This isn’t “at” you, VT53.

    But can you or anyone else explain who this was, why he wouldn’t play them, and how big of a difference did that decision make?
     
  9. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    I got the impression today that Bowles ran into them as he was leaving the party, and took several of the girls home not just the two. That’s how he got involved. If he and the victim had a thing he down played it, or denied it. I’ve not read anything that really laid that out in court.
     
  10. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

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  11. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I meant he had a thing for her and she used it to her advantage.

    (Not saying this is true, just what was said at the time.)
     
  12. NEW COACH

    NEW COACH Contributor

    Does anybody understand the fascination of “running a train”? Why would you want to do that with another dude?
     
  13. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    Gotcha. That could be true. I’ve not read where the defense dove in his relationship with the accuser, and maybe they didn’t have to, as his story changed so many times it hard to find him credible.
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    On twitter it is being said that the accuser testified today that she didn't want to do the act but didn't say anything, so he would have no way of knowing. Like, she said something to the effect of all of that including the "no way of knowing" part. If so, my God two men's lives were derailed so unjustly.
     
  15. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    Say what? Dear lord, if true.
     
  16. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    So much has been said over 4 years, I've forgotten what I believed was most credible at that time.
     
  17. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator



    Only route to go now is consent/lack of consent
     
  18. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    She just said he would have no way of knowing. I am very sensitive to consent issues, but her own perspective is that he had no way of knowing she didn't want to do that. Not didn't know, had NO WAY to know.
     
  19. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Isn't the whole consent/no consent thing all about knowing for certain and not not knowing?
     
  20. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Ya, I guess you are right. Seems like some false indications could have been present if she says he had no way to know though.
     

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