Hilary campaigning on a far left platform

no it doesn't. It gets votes. Otherwise, it changes absolutely nothing.

I don't know of any jobs, besides part time or transient fast food type, that offer anything near min wage. I'm sure they're out there, but people after real work pay $10 at a minimum.

 

no they didn't. Don't confuse political propaganda with the real knowledge that inflation would wipe out any benefit that might come from such a poorly thought out policy.

All we did is accelerate inflation. Every instance of this hike serves only to hurt those on fixed incomes.

 

Wait, so did it change anything or not guys?

 

That's feel good polices with no explanation. Who decides what the "creature comforts" are that they deserve?

 

sure, but that isn't any more linear than tax revenue. having some minimum isn't destroying anyone, but a high enough minimum could destroy the lower profit-margin businesses. certainly some places can handle it, but I'm not sure what the taqueria and the pho place does

 

what did it end? aren't you still here arguing that min wage is starvation wage?

 

the size of the hike certainly dictates the pace and magnitude of the impact.

 

Like I said, if they can't afford to pay someone what it costs to live, to pay them a fraction of that would be immoral.

 

you did say that. and I wondered whether paying them the most you can might not be morally superior than sending them to the unemployment line.

 

The government shouldn't be in the business of pushing and protecting morals

 

Would 16 year old kids living at home still be required to be paid this 'living wage'? I am all for helping the little guy, and I think that many things in this country are out of whack, but hiking the minimum wage up to a living wage would not accomplish what it is looking to do.

Personally, I think that a lot of this debate is using ideologies from 1930's when the labor market was being taken advantage of, and heavily (and even then not nearly as badly as in the 19th century).

 

what is costs to live is not the same thing as having a house and a car. Do you yourself own a house and a car? How are you going to pay a wage that's high enough for that?

 

Bill Gates said this. "If flipping burgers becomes a $15/hour job many college graduates are going to move right into those positions. There are plenty of college grads out there making less than $15 an hour right now who would love to work at Dairy Queen for more pay.

The people doing the protesting right now in front of Wendy’s? Guess what? They will be long gone because Brad has to find a way to pay his student loan back. Again, as far as the working class is concerned, those jobs have vanished."

 

don't know. I do know we aren't in the 1930s.

 

Two adults should be free to enter into any contract that they want involving labor.

 

Someone baiting the fringe elements to get a leg up in the primaries. You know, kind of like that empty suit dipshit Romney disavowing pretty much everything he did in Massachusetts to pander to right wing loons.

 

I do not have the faith in the free market that you do. Not any longer, anyway. But I am not a Communist nor even a Socialist, either. I don't know what I am, nor have I sat down and fully given my attention to my own economic ideology. I don't know enough about economics, and it just isn't something that I am that interested in doing, to be honest. Not sure it would matter that much.

That said, if it were the wild west, I fear blacklisting, collusion and what not, would return us somewhat to the 19th century model. But I am probably wrong. Perhaps we have advanced enough now in information technologies that this would not happen. It is just too big of a leap of faith for me to take.

 

I'm far more concerned about the GOP candidates breaking their necks to see who can suck the Koch Brothers' ****s first.

 

this kind of assumes that people are forced to take any job offered at any wage offered. we don't have company towns anymore.

 

We still benefit at all the stuff you just listed, but we export that cheap labor to third world countries