Is 3-4 enough to get him out?

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by IP, Sep 17, 2017.

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Is 3-4 enough to get Jones out?

  1. Yes, 4 losses will be enough to get him fired.

    19.0%
  2. Going 3-4 will do it, but 4-3 with a later loss would save him.

    9.5%
  3. Only 5 losses on the season will get him out.

    23.8%
  4. He'll be back next season as long as he wins 7 games.

    47.6%
  1. JT5

    JT5 Super Moderator

    I think this is the line in the sand. It's year 5 - win the division, or best of luck elsewhere. At some point, you have to demonstrate real, measurable progress. When he was hired, he was tweeting out pictures of all his championship rings from the MAC and other rec leagues. The AD communicated that the criteria for the hire was a proven, championship head coach. No more bricks, processes, progresses, journeys, climbs, or youth to discuss...it's championship time.

    In 5 years, if you can't get the team to Atlanta to play for a championship, you can't stay here. Knock 'em dead in Toledo next year.
     
  2. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    And historically, if you don't do it by year 3 you are never going to do it. It is a fascinating search to see how few people win championships if they haven't done it by year 3.
     
  3. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    People assumed the Georgia game would be a loss.

    Then Mark Richt did Mark Richt things
     
  4. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    That game earned him 3 more years. I will never forgive Mark Richt for doing that to us.
     
  5. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    I won't even watch Mad About You reruns because of it.
     
  6. cotton

    cotton Stand-up Philosopher

    Kirby Smart did Mark Richt things last year or we drop 4 in a row. That might have changed some things, too.
     
  7. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    He had injuries to fall back on last year. I'm not saying it's a legit excuse, but he had that and a Florida victory.
     
  8. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    Yep. That was also the week that the rumors about violence to players came out. We beat Georgia and I never heard another mention of them outside the 8th
     
  9. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    As much as Butch frustrates me, that was the first game I took my wife to at Neyland. I can't be mad--was so much fun
     
  10. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Winning cures all
     
  11. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    He's right. Unfortunately.

    This feels different though. Any youth experiences ring hollow when he's turned over the entire roster
     
  12. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    And for all of his faults, Butch has had at least one game every season that has made the vast majority of the fanbase legit excited.

    Just hoping Currie is a lot better AD than Hart--if so, I could even talk myself into being happy that Butch hung around until this year
     
  13. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    Kind of ridiculous to put so much emphasis on beating a coach Phil beat twice in his final three years, Kiffin destroyed, and Dooley almost beat.
     

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