Soccer Discussion

Discussion in 'Sports' started by tvolsfan, Mar 9, 2012.

  1. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Why is Japan playing on copa America? Did I miss south america anexing them?
     
  2. bostonvol

    bostonvol Chieftain

    The South American football federation has only 10 members. They invite different countries to make the format workable. Qatar is also participating this year. In 2016 there were 6 countries from outside SA that participated.
     
  3. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    there has been talk of concacaf feeding into it somehow
     
  4. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    CONCACAF is held back by all those little Caribbean confederations who hold an equal vote to Mexico and the U.S. I wouldn't be surprised if Mexico, especially, looks to join up with the Copa America instead of a milquetoast Gold Cup without a berth to the Confederations Cup, but neither wants to really give up the free (Well...usually) pass to the World Cup CONCACAF gives them and fully join South America.

    Could you imagine us trying to qualify for the World Cup by combining the Americas? We'd go once every other decade.
     
  5. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    They’d have to take more than 4 obviously. But it would be hell.
     
  6. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Had to listen to some high up cats in US soccer today.

    They think they’re going to make huge strides with the play model, really going to push it in inner cities, and somehow make it where Europe leagues have to pay us soccer if they sign an American.

    Also seem pretty worried about how other countries are closing the gap in women’s soccer.
     
  7. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    And now we know why the US can't seem to make any progress. These [uck fay]ing morons are still in charge.
     
  8. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

    How can US Soccer make European professional teams pay US Soccer for a player? Is US Soccer claiming the rights of every soccer player in the USA now? I bet the SCOTUS will have a lot to say about that.

    Unless I am misreading what 53 is saying was said.
     
  9. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    I'm not sure exactly what the context was for that statement, but there has been a controversy recently over training compensation (and solidarity payments, which are very similar and I haven't delved into the nuance of which is which). In Europe, training compensation is standard operating procedure. Some percentage of a player's contract/fee goes to the clubs that trained him as a youth player. This applies to first contracts and any transfers under the age of 23. If a European club signs a European player under 23, even if they sign them on a free, they pay the youth club some amount of money. In the past, MLS academies have not demanded training compensation when transferring players to Europe, probably in large part because they don't want to pay training compensation when they poach players from non-MLS pay-to-play academies. There was actually a big (well, niche big) court case about this over the Yedlin transfer to Spurs, because his youth club wanted compensation but Spurs had been told they didn't owe anything.

    What's happening right now is that we're trying to come a little bit closer to Europe in our training model, by reducing pay-to-play whenever possible and by participating in training compensation.
     
  10. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

  11. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Founder of the Mike Honcho Fan Club

  12. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    The arrogance of the heads of US Soccer is hysterical.
     
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  13. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    None of that surprises me
     
  14. lylsmorr

    lylsmorr Super Moderator

    Look no further than ticket prices for CONCACAF events and USMNT friendlies. It's a bunch of corrupt dickheads that want to line their own pockets.
     
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  15. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    The whole system is full of laughably arrogant people. My son's travel team one year got a coach from Denmark for a season and the guy who brought him in (the club director and one of the parents) became his assistant. It worked at first, but the guy couldn't help himself and began barking out orders during some tournament. The guy from Denmark, who had an A level UEFA coaching license, turned to him, told him he didn't know what he was taking about and to STFU. Was beautiful.
     
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
  16. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Un, Nusa, Stones River or International?
     
  17. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    The story or now?
     
  18. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    That's great.

    My soccer coaching highlight was when my son was 4 and my team "beat" a guy who played semi-pro in Spain or Portugal like 10-0. Granted, I had two ringers from Guatemala on my team that were heads, shoulders, waist, and knees better than every kid out there, but I'm still going to ascribe it to the coaching.
     
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  19. Ssmiff

    Ssmiff Went to the White House...Again

    Just curious. Not far from you. Son played for Aris and Nusa. We played vs Stones River quite a bit, then a new team, mainly Hispanic, called IFC came about from Antioch area. They toyed with us.
     
  20. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    No, he played for Eagle Express out of Mt. Juliet. We're still working on his team this year, but TSC did offer him a spot, so we'll see.
     

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