Socialism

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Tenacious D, Feb 24, 2016.

  1. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    1. I concede that nothing is better at motivating people to work and contribute than starvation/survival. However, I feel there are circumstances (rarely) that put people in situations where motivation is not the problem at all, and thus the starvation/survival not appropriate in a community.

    2. As I said, one way to do that is change the carrot from "life" to "luxuries of any real kind." Did you know people spend more money on lottery tickets than just about any other form of entertainment? And that the majority of money spent are by those who would not qualify as "middle class?" I know it's nanny state scary talk, but that just shouldn't be. Ban lotteries entirely if necessary, or just make gambling something you can only do with a W-2. We currently have a system that not only punishes the lazy, but also the working poor and the less intelligent and the desperate. I realize I am not directly answering your question, but I hope I have at the least given you an idea of what needs to be targeted.
     
  2. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    How does one manage the goose that laid the golden egg? It is the dilemma that has led to the current hybrid system.
     
  3. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    What? You ban the lottery and the money is going to be pissed away on something equally useless.
     
  4. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    Freely allowing trade and commerce between individuals with a justice system over seeing it.
     
  5. justingroves

    justingroves supermod


    If you're giving someone something, they have no fear of going without
     
  6. Beechervol

    Beechervol Super Moderator

    Yep. As long as they know it's there.
     
  7. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    What got it there was foolish cuts that have led to higher costs. Less government for the sake of less government is what caused it.
     
  8. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    Cool bumper sticker.
     
  9. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Ummm I'd say the unions blowing up the local economy played a big big part in the local govt having no money. Hard to tax a dry well
     
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2016
  10. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I'd say switching the water over without properly treating it did it. That was done by the governor.

    That you or anyone else would try to swing this all the way over to unions is ****ing sad. Unions didn't let that water continue to be delivered to children while covering it up. Get a grip.
     
  11. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    Great way of changing the subject. You were the one that talked about "less govt," not I.
     
  12. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    I changed the subject when you invoked unions? "whaaa?"
     
  13. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    You blamed some nebulous "anti govt" ridiculousness for the lack of govt services there rather than the obvious answer that it's directly related to the economy there sucking.
     
  14. IP

    IP Super Moderator

    It wasn't a lack of government service that was coming out brown and filled with lead, man. Lack of government services would be no water. Delivering poison under the guise of fulfilling a government service is something else.
     
  15. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Starburst.
     
  16. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Ignoring that a better life or profit isn't an equally powerful motivator is exactly why you believe in socialism and everyone else paying more taxes.
     
  17. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Period. Exclamation point x 50.
     
  18. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I don't think it's equally powerful, but it's a motivator.
     
  19. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Little long for a bumper sticker.
     
  20. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    That's true. Hierarchy of needs and such, but it's the true driver of hard work in America. It's exactly what the socialists forgot as they built their Utopias.
     

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