The Death of Ahmaud Arbery

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  1. NorrisAlan

    NorrisAlan Put Custom Title Here

    Should we, as Citizens, not always first ask of the State "What did you do and why did a Citizen die by your hands?" instead of "Well, the Citizen should know better and I side with the State in this." ?

    I ask this because it seems that we often bend over backwards to defend the police in a situation like this instead of giving the citizen 100% of the benefit of the doubt.
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  2. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    State/ government has way too much power but I don’t see that getting stripped anytime soon.
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  3. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    Not if people just accept it, no.
  4. Volst53

    Volst53 Super Moderator

    most people want more government so they’ll need more enforcement.
  5. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    I don't believe that most people want more government. I think you are confusing specific government with more government.

    Some areas need to increase, because government's job is to facilitate the life of the people. Other areas of government need to decrease.

    We have hundreds of government employees, that we pay massive amounts of money to, that can't even draft a friggen simple law without it having 14 legal holes. We could do with less of that, and put some of that money, in, apparently, "writing" education.
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  6. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    He puts it much more eloquently than I ever could

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  7. The Dooz

    The Dooz Super Moderator

    One officer charged with 3 counts of felony wanton endangerment.

    The others officers have been charged with mur...oh, actually, nothing. That’s it. That’s the list of charges.

    RIP Louisville.
  8. fl0at_

    fl0at_ Humorless, asinine, joyless pr*ck

    One better than none. And no-knocks suspended long ago in Louisville.

    That's about as close as we're going to get any time soon.
  9. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Still not sure how anybody ever expected to get a murder charge out of this. Manslaughter? Sure.

    Unions have power. Until that's broken nothing at all will change.
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  10. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    this may be the only union so powerful as to allegedly get away with murder on a consistent basis.
  11. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Firemen too, if they killed people.

    Just telling you. They hold power, and in Louisville it appears they hold lots and lots of power.
  12. zehr27

    zehr27 8th's VIP

    Manslaughter should have been the charge for whoever approved the no knock warrant or whoever fudged it so they could get a no knock warrant.
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  13. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    I learned today that the incident report for Taylor's death was nearly blank. I mean, damn.
  14. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    I've not seen that.
  15. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain

    Hard to say. Probably there are other unions so powerful, but those unions don't regularly represent folks who carry, point, and shoot guns at people.
  16. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

  17. Indy

    Indy Chieftain

  18. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    A good test for whether it is or is not anything would be to define what would qualify as something now. Would the DA not giving any option for finding higher charges be something? would be putting out or failing to correct false details, such as there being no camera footage, be something?
  19. Indy

    Indy Chieftain

    For the former, I'd have to educate myself a bit more on how these situations work. For the latter, I think it would depend what that camera footage shows.

    I'm not sure why there's a need to define it now, rather than waiting to see what info comes out and then deciding.
  20. IP

    IP Advanced Pruitt Apologetics Bot

    right, so you will think it is nothing. whatever it is, you will rationalize it-- even if it shows bald face lying, such as about the presence of cameras.

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