Obama: Maybe it's time for mandatory voting

I don't for a second believe that the number of people who vote who don't have IDs is larger than the number of people who vote twice in different polling places, vote under someone else's name, can't legally vote but do it anyway, take their dead mothers absente ballot and vote, etc. It's very hard to live in this country as a functioning member of society (which people who vote generally are) without some sort of id. it's extremely easy to do all the things I just listed. hell I've been registered at two different voting places accidently MULTIPLE times in my life despite informing California I've moved.

 

I just don't think the sort of scum who would do that really cares about elections that much.

 

they are doing it because they care about elections. there are tons of crazy ass people around.

 

btw I've had people brag to me they do shit like this.

 

Okay. I'm skeptical that it is a serious problem.

 

I very much doubt it has effected national or state elections. I'm sure it was swayed some small local ones. I still feel it's reasonable for us to know the person who registered to vote is the same person actual voting.

 

I think it is reasonable too, but you need to have a way to do so that is 100 % accessible to every peculiar case of citizen. Someone who is a shut-in needs to be able to have an ID, else you are infringing on their rights. Maybe there could be an ID on wheels system. Or a mail-in system to get one.

 

seems to me if they can leave the house to vote they can leave the house to go to the dmv

 

Exactly. The faux outrage behind that fight is interesting.

 

It can be done. Both of what you listed are viable options. Some of which is in use to keep or update card IDs.

 

I absolutely agree that its political, both ways. No different than why the Ds don't want it. They perceive it as an issue on election day.

Do you believe the only instances of fraud (in general for that matter) are the ones that are found.

 

Leif Jeffers lost a regional election because of those votes.

 

Well, then you would be incorrect in your belief. There was a study shown that about 11% of the voting population don't have IDs. The number of fraud cases is exceptionally smaller to almost non-existent. It's also fairly easy to live without an ID for a portion of the population.

 

Yes......



To all of it.

 

I don't have an issue with this in theory, and I don't think there is a voter fraud issue at all. It would be even better if there was some way to produce them and mailing them without having to go to a location and having said picture made. Not sure how it would be done though. I guess the NSA could help.....

 

i've seen 11% of the population, not voting population, or by voting population do you mean people eligible to vote? where's the evidence these same people are voting? what job can you have where you can live without an ID? what public assistance can you get without an ID? my wife's 104 grandmother doesn't have a current ID, but she isn't voting either.

 

I personally know people who vote more than once. I'm not suggesting it's the crime of the century, but it happens. outside of the extreme elderly I don't see what the big deal is with going to an actual location to get a picture made.

 

I'm not claiming it's non-existent. It's just so minute that it is insignificant.

Would I like for there to be no fraud? Sure, but you'll never 100% eradicate it.

 

1% of voters in these 3 states lacked a photo ID

http://www.american.edu/spa/cdem/upload/csae080109.pdf

 

As to the issue of going somewhere for a photo, you are the product of an urban environment. Not a thing wrong with that, but in rural areas, it's not always a simple task for everyone.