Calling All Lawyers

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by GahLee, Mar 24, 2015.

  1. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    A Civil Action
     
  2. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Why has nobody dropped dead yet?

    You need damages or what are you suing for?

    Also, you would proximate cause linking these alleged carcinogens to people getting sick or dropping dead or having kids with two and half heads. And this would require proof of the existence of the carcinogens. Do you have that? Or do you just think they might be there?
     
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  3. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Where did the fine come from?
     
  4. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    not following you. are you saying someone has to drop dead before a company can be in violation of pollution or safe practice laws and subject to fine?
     
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  5. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    I asked you a simple question. It wasn't rhetorical.
     
  6. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

  7. kmf600

    kmf600 Energy vampire

    This is a very complicated case, Maude. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man. Lotta strands in old Duder's head.
     
  8. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

  9. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    an awful lot of people who run actual businesses in this thread seem to think they or OSHA would give a shit.
     
  10. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

  11. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain


    That's true, but there are occupational exposure limits. Some are extremely low. That's why exposure monitoring should be conducted.
     
  12. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain


    TOSHA is woefully inept. Federal OSHA is most often much worse. Monetary fines are generally worse from EPA or state environmental regulators than OSHA unless you get into willful or repeat violations. Where OSHA can be a bear is their persistence. OSHA tends to "fish" more when they get their foot in the door. The last thing you want to hear is that they are broadening their scope to include the entire facility. That can cost more in manpower than fines depending on the condition and size of the place. For smaller worksites, OSHA is less of a problem for a number of reasons.
     
  13. warhammer

    warhammer Chieftain


    Two words, willful and repeat, are what ran the total up. Just looking at the numbers, it could have been worse. The maximum fine for those are ten times that for "serious" or "other than serious".
     
  14. rbroyles

    rbroyles Chieftain

    If your goal here is stopping a potentially dangerous practice, get on it, or get out of harms way. If something other, at least inform your fellow employees of possible risk, particularly those in immediate area of incineration. The fact that you have experienced headaches tells me this is not a safe work environment.
     
  15. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    If they consider something waste and you are not permitted to incenerate it, they most definitely care.

    FWIW, it wasn't clear to me here whether or not this would be considered waste.
     
  16. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Yes, if it's not properly vented or if it's not burnt off correctly
     
  17. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Well the question is whether it's polluting the environment generally. The way I'm understanding this situation, if this gas were being chimney'd out to the skies, Gah-lee wouldn't be sweating this situation as much. If it's air in a contained environment of a private factory, it would not seem to be an EPA issue.
     
  18. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    Though I should be quite honest -- I don't know a thing about the EPA or what they do. Seems reasonable they would concern themselves over rivers, and not a pool in your backyard.
     
  19. GahLee

    GahLee Director of Conspiracy Theories, 8th Maxim

    It's not a factory. This is totally out of the realm of what the company actually does for profit.
     
  20. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    OSHA makes more sense. Doesn't strike me as an EPA issue. But then again I'm just basing that on a reasonable plain-language interpretation of the word 'environmental'. Could be way off.
     

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