GOP Debate - Round 2

He's doing a lot better tonight.

 

Please actually read his plan instead of parroting an 18 trillion dollar figure you read.

 

The smart play with this format would be for 3 candidates to collude together to keep mentioning/jabbing the other two so as to dominate the time.

 

That's just it, Trump. A graduated tax rate IS a socialistic thing. Socialism isn't the boogey man, and we've had socialist policies for almost 100 years.

 

Trust me I've read it. He wants to heavily increase taxes on the rich as well but would could between 8 to 9 trillion with the middle class picking up the tab for the rest.

But there's pretty much a set amount of 19 percent of gpd that you'll be able to get before it drives a lot underground and offshore.

 

You didn't read it then.

 

Just out of curiosity, do you guys agree with Rubio and Trump that the world is "exploding around us" and that Obama is more friendly with the Ayatollah than Israel's President? Are you ****ing kidding me? This is an insane asylum.

 

Trump the draft dodger is very militaristic... and this quality is a good thing...

 

ya, W. kept us safe. Except for that thing that happened in September back in 2001.

 

They're not Americans. Can they vote in Mexico? Honduras? Nicaragua?

 

I'm not advocating for non-Americans to be able to vote. I just find it funny that he is essentially laying out a subservient underclass without rights to work the fields. That's what he said.

Either we believe the words of the Declaration of Independence and the constitution or we don't. Those rights of ALL people discussed were self-evident and innate, or they weren't. He specifically said they wouldn't not have rights.

 

His tax plan only covers 6.5 trill and his promise of higher tax rates have a serious diminishing return and the Wall Street Journal has acknowledged taxes would have to go up for the middle class.

He's a scandavian socialist which has a really high tax burden which most Americans won't accept.

 

What do you expect them to do with a guy who walked in with a double-digit lead, and who they all know will leave with the same?

 

Ya, Carson. Obama would murder you if you came to the WH. Right. The POTUS would assassinate you.

 

I believe he said they wouldn't have the privileges that citizens have.

 

Sure seemed like he was being super serial there.

 

What says that those rights can only be secured and realized here, IP?

But I am absolutely not for a subservient underclass to work the fields without rights.

That's the two reasons I want them all deported (besides the whole "illegal" thing) - so as to be treated fairly amongst their own countrymen, where they will have full exercise of all rights to which such citizenship affords them, and if insufficient, to win them, for themselves and all of their fellow countrymen.

 

I'm almost certain he didn't say "privileges."

 

I think a guest worker system is ultimately the way to go, and I think securing the border as well as cracking down on employers and the droskis hiring them to mow lawns will make deportation a moot point. So much so that I would say to you, "fine, let's deport offenders after we secure the border and implement the guest worker program."

 

Trump has won - commanded, really - the "first to mind" segment, and now he's starting to play the long game of looking, acting and speaking the part, however fitfully.

He's already playing the long game, and these guys are playing to simply survive just long enough so as to be the last one eaten.

Here's the dirty little secret that I hope that all of these diehard GOPers, screaming for deportations: the GOP, and it's many Chamber of Commerce members, want just as badly to keep them here as the Dems, so as to continue to exploit their cheap labor and further drive other wages down. This ain't just the Dems.

Or maybe they do realize it, and the overwhelming success of Trump's candidacy is really an indictment on the two-faced GOP, as much - or more - than just "politics as usual". And I hope he rips the GOP into a million broken shards of glass.