"This is for Allah"

Discussion in 'The Thunderdome' started by Tenacious D, Jun 4, 2017.

  1. smokysbark

    smokysbark Chieftain

    I'm sure the good idea fairy is hard at work coming up with ways to get out of this conflict with a 'win'. I will be the first to say that the larger vision, goal, perspective, or whatever term should be used, escapes my intellect most times. My only perspective is 7 deployments in 10 years and, with every following one, the question of "what the hell are we even doing anymore" is louder. Circling above troops in the fight with the sole purpose of providing close air support but unable to engage because the troop commander has to ask the battle commander to ask the brigade commander to ask the theatre commander to ask the JAG if we are clear to fire without ending up on CNN....frustrating is a gross underestimation of most troops on the ground. Yea, chalk 8 you are cleared hot but miniguns are not authorized unless you can confirm no civilians. Wtf? No one is wearing bad guy tshirts. I don't know who the **** is a civilian and who isn't.

    Just get the **** out already.
     
  2. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

    I don't see how that's going to help John Q. Mudhut.
     
  3. Oldvol75

    Oldvol75 Super Bigfoot Guru Mod

    Thus my point!
     
  4. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    How would that affect the already and vastly accumulated wealth?
     
  5. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Sorry, not sure why it isn't playing, but it's a Prager video that specifically addresses why people become extremists.

    It's neither poverty nor a lack of education. Many Islamic extremists come from the middle class, and have a university education.

    Link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IchGuL501U
     
  6. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I'm not sure why we should intervene in the distributing of wealth in other countries, or should even care, tbh.
     
  7. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I agree.

    The larger issue is not that the problem exists there, as it has for centuries, but that we're bringing it here, IMO.
     
  8. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Osama Bin Laden was rich, the folks he recruited. The terrorist of Belgium, France, United States, and England have all been at least middle class. I don't buy the wealth distribution argument. We have been adversarial long before oil was discovered.
     
  9. IP

    IP It's just business.

    Wealth is either growing or shrinking. If they're spending it at home it is being spent within their society. If they go abroad, well that reduces inequality too.
     
  10. IP

    IP It's just business.

    There has been sources of wealth in the Middle East before oil was discovered. The hostility then revolved around wealth passing through their sphere of influence.

    Many of the people blowing themselves up and going on suicide runs are poor as shit. Or so I thought.
     
  11. IP

    IP It's just business.

  12. kptvol

    kptvol Super Moderator

  13. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

  14. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    It shouldn't be easy to enter war, but if it's deemed a situation meets stringent standards, the military should be completely unleashed to win in the most convincing and fastest way possible. Unleash hell & get it over with. If we are unwilling to unshackle our military, we shouldn't send our military in the situation.

    God bless you guys.
     
  15. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    I don't think we can or should even try outside of maybe diplomatic channels.

    We sure wouldn't allow another country to try here.
     
  16. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    I would say it definitely is a factor, but what authority to we have to act in other countries to attempt to address it. We don't do a great job dealing with our own poverty issues. And our poverty is nothing compared to some of the problem areas in the ME in both scale and severity.
     
  17. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    Yep.

    Remove their leverage.
     
  18. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    My answer would be, if we don't need what they have, it doesn't matter & we have no need to be there.

    I could be wrong.
     
  19. TennTradition

    TennTradition Super Moderator

    The essential blackballing of Qatar by the Arab states is going to be interesting to watch.

    As Trump would say, who would have guessed that a phone call could be so complicated.
     
  20. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    Well...the Arab world is now doing exactly what Trump asked them to do, only a few weeks ago.

    That's not coincidence.
     

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