Muhammad Ali Dead at 74

Discussion in 'Sports' started by Unimane, Jun 4, 2016.

  1. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Not saying he is a hero. Never have. He took what could be considered a courageous stand by not going to Vietnam. The idea that he was a cowardly draft dodger can certainly be backed up also, I don't deny that. I'm sure many more stories about his character flaws will be coming out soon enough, as they are plentiful.... It's the American way, it seems, to lionize somebody for a week or two after their death and then start exposing all the skeletons....
     
  2. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    I sure can knowing the alternative. Saving your own hide isn't courageous, it's self preservation
     
  3. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.


    You are assuming he'd have actually gotten close to any combat... The Army wouldn't let Joe Louis or Elvis (had there been a war going on during E's hitch...) anywhere near a flying bullet... People like Jimmy Stewart had to basically demand actual combat duty...
     
  4. droski

    droski Traffic Criminal

    I don't think Ali or his handlers believed that though. They going to trust a bunch of white Devils?
     
  5. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Makes his bailing in 62 very curious. He was slow, but not too stupid to pass the army IQ threshold.
     
  6. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Yeah, I don't get that part of the puzzle either....having spent a few hours last night reading up on this whole subject I'm pretty sure he (and his $$$$) was being used by the NOI to further their own cause. I'm not convinced his IQ was truly that low. Maybe it was and he was intelligent in other ways (how smart do you have to be to go 'round bragging about how great you are?) but we'll probably never know whether it was an act or a fact...
     
  7. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    In any event, he was certainly one of the more controversial figures of the 20th century and folks will be arguing this point (and whether he truly WAS "The Greatest", which I don't buy... but that's another argument) forever...
     
  8. Beechervol

    Beechervol Super Moderator

    Exactly.

    Courageous has become confusing.
     
  9. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    That dude who turned into a woman who is turning back into a dude
     
  10. Beechervol

    Beechervol Super Moderator

    That too.
     
  11. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    He had a great deal of trouble with the written word. Probably dyslexic.
     
  12. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    [video=youtube;Z14X844RrUU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z14X844RrUU[/video]
     
  13. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

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    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

  15. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    Why is Boxing not a thing that people care about anymore? I can't name a champ since Lennox Lewis.
     
  16. A-Smith

    A-Smith Chieftain

    Heavyweight I mean
     
  17. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    "The Right Hand Lead Round"

    [video=youtube;ZbAY85eQQ30]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbAY85eQQ30[/video]
     
  18. kidbourbon

    kidbourbon Well-Known Member

    A lot of different reasons. The rise of NFL football and the complete lack of infrastructure are two notables.

    It used to be HUGE, though.
     
  19. Savage Orange

    Savage Orange I need ammunition, not a ride. -V Zelensky.

    Boxing is kinda like LaCrosse... Folks that are into it are absolutely freaking rabid about it.
     
  20. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Fixing, Don King, etc.
     

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