Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'Politicants' started by Tenacious D, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Tenacious D

    Tenacious D The law is of supreme importance, or no importance

    I cannot debate the dullard or delusional.

    You're both.

    So, I won't.
     
  2. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Rep. John Lewis (D-GA), said. "This is America. Our doors are open."
     
  3. Unimane

    Unimane Kill "The Caucasian"

    My arguments are perfectly fine. They just happen to fall on the opposite ledger of yours, thus, they become invalid rantings of a dullard or delusional. Argue or don't, but don't pretend this has anything to do with this idea that you express here.
     
  4. Oldvol75

    Oldvol75 Super Bigfoot Guru Mod

  5. dknash

    dknash Chieftain

    The government wastes 500 million dollars every 14 minutes. At least maybe someone will score some sweet free hotel porn out of this.
     
  6. lumberjack4

    lumberjack4 Chieftain

  7. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    All the more reason to send them home immediately rather than shipping and housing them around the Country.

    The federal government is so overwhelmed by the current tide of migrants crossing the border it can’t provide basic medical screening to all of the children before transporting them – often by air – to longer-term holding facilities across the country, ABC News has learned.

    The director of refugee health in the federal Health and Human Services Department “has identified a breakdown of the medical screening processes at the Nogales, Arizona, facility,” according to an internal Department of Defense memo reviewed by ABC News. The “breakdown” a systemic failure of the handoff of these children between CBP and HHS.

    Inside the government, officials are sounding alarms, fearing that they and their teams who come in contact with the sick children face potential exposure to infectious diseases from chicken pox to influenza, including rare cases of H1N1, more commonly called swine flu.


    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politic...to-cope-with-medical-breakdown-at-the-border/
     
  8. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    Nothing bad can come from this at all VD. You are just scared your white privilege will be undermined.
     
  9. bigpapavol

    bigpapavol Chieftain

    Nothing is more perilous to this country's welfare than its economic situation. Pissiing away more money to make the emotional argument Americans feel better about robbing Peter is not on the right side of the ledger. Get the hell away from financial terms, like ledger (interest Freudian slip) as you whine that it's about the kids. Those kids aren't our responsibility and our government has no right to shove them down our throats. The near guaranteed future generational welfare problem makes this debate almost silly. We can't and shouldn't pay for it.

    I don't even give a crap if they let the kids write in votes, as long as we aren't footing any bills.
     
  10. wildnkrazykat

    wildnkrazykat Well-Known Member

  11. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Nothing but Net!!
     
  12. XXROCKYTOPXX

    XXROCKYTOPXX Chieftain

  13. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    Posse Comitatus doesn't apply to the National Guard under the direction of a governor of a state. However, seeing how immigration is the domain of the feds regardless if they are handling the situation or not. I don't want to get bogged down in that quagmire. Knowing that, can the Guard be used by a governor to enforce federal laws without violating Posse Comitatus? There are exemptions to the law, but mostly what I've seen is where the SecDef requests help in a situation such as finding/securing lost/loose nuclear material that may be in country. I know that the Guard has been used for surveillance purposes on the border, but not enforcement purposes before;thus, remaining inside the law. How is this gonna work? Thoughts?

    This is only a question as to the legality of the move. It is not a statement of position in any way. It's simply a question of how is this legal? To my knowledge, there's no exception for a governor being allowed to do this because they think, justified or not, that the feds aren't doing their job to his/her liking, again real or imagined. Help me out legal eagles.
     
  14. Oldvol75

    Oldvol75 Super Bigfoot Guru Mod

    Perry may be worried more about his own people in his state wanting him to do something. Plus if our government isn't going to do anything, you can't just let this keep happening.
     
  15. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    Wanting him to do something even if there is a dereliction of duty on the feds part doesn't automatically make it legal and able to stand in the court of law.

    Playing devil's advocate, how does the breaking of one law justify the breaking of another to address the first? Again, how is this legal?
     
    Last edited: Jul 21, 2014
  16. JohnnyQuickkick

    JohnnyQuickkick Calcio correspondent

    sounds dirty
     
  17. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Hoping to stem the recent surge of migrants at the Southwest border, the Obama administration is considering whether to allow hundreds of minors and young adults from Honduras into the United States without making the dangerous trek through Mexico, according to a draft of the proposal.

    If approved, the plan would direct the government to screen thousands of children and youths in Honduras to see if they can enter the United States as refugees or on emergency humanitarian grounds. It would be the first American refugee effort in a nation reachable by land to the United States, the White House said, putting the violence in Honduras on the level of humanitarian emergencies in Haiti and Vietnam, where such programs have been conducted in the past amid war and major crises.


    When does he plan on giving the people of South Chicago refugee status?!?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/07/25/w...f-youths-seeking-entry-to-honduras-.html?_r=0
     
  18. VolDad

    VolDad Super Moderator

    Children crossing border: 'Obama will take care of us'

    McALLEN, Texas – In an exclusive interview with WND and Rep. Steve Stockman, R-Texas, a 13-year Border Patrol veteran revealed many in the recent surge of illegal immigrants, including unaccompanied minors, are coming prepared to game the U.S. immigration system, even repeating the mantra, “Obama will take care of us.”

    “I don’t usually get into the political part of it,” explained Chris Cabrera, now a vice president in the National Border Patrol Council Local 3307, “but I find it odd that their whole thing is, ‘We are going to get amnesty when we get here. Where is my permiso? Where is my permission to go north so I can get my medical care and my schooling and all that? President Obama is going to take care of us and make sure we’re all OK.’

    “Whether it’s the adults or the young kids, one thing we consistently hear is, ‘Obama will take care of us,’” he explained.


    He also suggested the tens of thousands of unaccompanied minors illegally entering the United States appear to have been coached on what to say when they cross the border.

    “The ‘magic words’ are something along the lines of ‘asylum,’ or ‘political asylum’ or to say ‘fighting in my home country,’” Cabrera said. “They know these words … because we can’t send them home because it’s too dangerous back there.”

    The only way to stop the flow of illegal immigration and child smuggling across the border, he says, is to eliminate the entitlement mentality with a return to strict, border enforcement.


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/07/children-crossing-border-obama-will-take-care-of-us/#MfdzJmTj6AW9GbVK.99
     
  19. XXROCKYTOPXX

    XXROCKYTOPXX Chieftain


    So....if we know they're illegal...
     
  20. XXROCKYTOPXX

    XXROCKYTOPXX Chieftain

    Incredible, such blatant disregard...yet it's ok.

     

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