You Guys Won't Believe This...

Discussion in 'Vols Football' started by LawVol13, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    So is Spangler, but it's not going to quiet the masses.
     
  2. JZ1124

    JZ1124 Active Member

    Most fans thought 6 to 7 wins with bowl minimum, no?
     
  3. LawVol13

    LawVol13 Chieftain

    Trying to bring info to the board. If you don't want that, delete the [uck fay]ing thread. You're acting like nothing but a know-it-all [Penis].
     
  4. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator


    All I want is for that perception and reality to mesh again....
     
  5. CardinalVol

    CardinalVol Uncultured, non-diverse mod

    And it's not that far off from what the General inherited, the times considered.
     
  6. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    You missed the "insecure" part, which is the kicker here. If he weren't insecure, he'd hire good assistants and we probably wouldn't have much of a problem
     
  7. volfanbill

    volfanbill Active Member

    most fans seem to think we're still just a DC away from being National Title Contenders when it comes to recruiting and coaching vacancies. Tennessee has an unbelievable history that's rich with traditions and prestige, but national perception has never put us in the same league as Alabama, USC and that upper echelon of schools like so many UT fans like to believe. We're bottom feeders right now and why would big coaches want to come to serve under someone who has struggled since he got here and still needs that big breakout season to say he deserves to actually be in a position over him?
     
  8. volfanbill

    volfanbill Active Member

    read on. I covered it.
     
  9. volfanbill

    volfanbill Active Member

    and you're acting like Rexvol, so who cares?
     
  10. JayVols

    JayVols Walleye Catchin' Moderator

    That describes my expectations for this season. The absolute best case miraculous scenario was 8 wins, but I was under no illusion of that actually happening.

    That KY loss was the catalyst for panic. 90% of the attitudes are different without that loss.
     
  11. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    I thought we were dismissing him because Navy sucks at defense and let ECU break Tee Martin's record
     
  12. LawVol13

    LawVol13 Chieftain

    That's me, bill. Got me pegged.
     
  13. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Correct.

    Dooley has managed to take more 30+ point ass whippings than Majors, Fulmer and Kiffin combined. Those losses should not be rationalized away. Sure, Tennessee is down. However, it's not that far down. There are NFL players on both sides of the ball. Alabama shouldn't treat Tennessee the same way they treat Georgia State. LSU shouldn't treat Tennessee like McNeese State ever.

    To make excuses for it, even if some are correct, is giving in to the perception that Tennessee sucks. Tennessee doesn't suck, it's just been a rudderless ship for 7 years.

    The right coach will fix the problem.
     
  14. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

    To speak just for myself, I was unmoved by that loss. Good coaches have inexcusable losses all the time. See the hackneyed Saban and ULM example. What's changing my attitude is that it's obvious that Dooley feels threatened by potential DCs.
     
  15. volfanjo

    volfanjo Chieftain

    I like Spangler a lot and he has tremendous ties to recruiting in SC. Between him and Graham we could knock out the Carolinas.

    But obviously yes to your larger point.
     
  16. Tar Volon

    Tar Volon Me Blog @RockyTopTalk.com

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  17. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

    Big time coaches will come. Love Lane or hate him, he assembled an All Star cast of assistants. The coaches will come if they want to work for the man in charge. Majors rode in on a NC from Pitt. Fulmer was a sought after assistant.

    It begins and ends with the guy in charge right now. No one has faith in him. It's not Tennessee.
     
  18. justingroves

    justingroves supermod

  19. LawVol13

    LawVol13 Chieftain

    This is me. Hiring Spangler or Green certainly don't help us close the gap on the top programs in the conference.
     
  20. JZ1124

    JZ1124 Active Member

    Most fans are hoping for 8 wins next year. If you can't get assistant coaches to come coach under doodrop find a HC, pay him, and assistant coaches will come.
     

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