Romney Intends to be "Unapologetically Aggressive" Toward Obama

I think he would try to ignore the Republicans altogether if he could. He caved because he had to, not because he wants everyone on board.

 

Yep.

 

Seems like he was compromising, then.

 

Yep, he did. With his own party. That's what makes it pathetic and shows how ineffective he is. He can't even lead his own party on major policy issues.

 

I don't know why anyone would have expected otherwise.

I really do get the feeling that he vastly overestimated his influence 4 years ago.

 

Didn't he have a majority for 2 years?

 

they are opposing obama at all costs because he flat out refused to bend an inch in their direction. i.e. both of them are a bunch of assholes. i'd love an example of obama bending to the republicans will. the healthcare bill is not an example. as law said that was bending to his own party.

 

But that's like, your opinion man.

 

Seriously? He's given in on a number of occasions. He gave in on the Bush tax cut extension with the expectation of later considerations on the budget (which he stipulated at the time - the later considerations slip my mind, at this moment) and the Republicans went back on him during the later considerations.

The Republicans policy towards Obama since his campaign was in full swing during the summer of 2008 has been to cast him as the dangerous "other" and stonewall him at every possible turn. I have yet to hear of an instance in which the Republicans were interested in working with Obama and his administration in anything, from the time they got up and walked out of the health care debate to later discussions regarding the ending of the tax cuts. Again, to somehow paint Obama as the culprit of alienating the other side is wholly incorrect. The right wing has been on the war path for almost 4 years now, unlike anything I've seen in presidential politics.

 

Fyp

Speaking of the Obama plan....shouldn't the USSC's ruling come out any day now?

 

I think all Presidents fall well short of their campaign rhetoric, regardless of party.

I just want to see the day that every party dies out, save one.

And I don't even care which it is, really.

Same with gays, evolution, prayer in schools, guns, immigration, porn, drugs, etc. Let's just decide on a course in each of these and move on. If only their was some mechanism in place to bring this plan to fruition....

And I keep hearing all of the carping in this thread about how the GOP is about to "die", "self-destruct" or are (seemingly) in the overwhelming minority on any number of issues of significance. Maybe that's all going to prove to be true. But maybe not. And even if so, it might be just a smidge longer than some here seem to believe.

Not saying. Just saying.

 

Sorry, Un - you seem to be insinuating that these sort of antics are unique to either Republicans or Obama, alone.

Is that your assertion, or do you perhaps mean that Dems have been just as obstructive toward Republican administrations in the past, too?

I don't want to assume - so I ask.

 

I have yet to hear a Democratic party leader say the goal for his party is to defeat the Republican president in the next election. So, yes, I agree that the parties are there because they oppose each other and will obstruct the attempts to legislate by the other side. However, never have I seen it done in such a singular purpose such as this from the time the administration began it's term. I don't see how anyone could dispute this point.

 

You must have missed the last 7 years of the George W. Bush Presidency then. Jesus, Unimane.

 

Link the quote, please, then. Jesus, nothing. If you really believe this, then you haven't been paying attention, at all.

Democrats were far more willing to work with Bush than Republicans were with Obama. You seriously believe it's the same? Bush got a lot of Democratic support for the Patriot Act, No Child Left Behind, the war in Iraq and a host of other things, plus didn't have the Day One assault on him as a subversive interloper actively trying to destroy America. The guy had a 90% approval rating after 9/11 and the Democrats, which Obama wouldn't get if he had personally tackled one of the hijackers in the airport.

I mean, really, give me one thing the Republicans even offered to work in a bi-partisan manner with Obama. One thing. The Democrats may have hated Bush, but it was nowhere near the level of outright obstinate behavior the Republicans display.

 

oh come on. his own party wasn't willing to raise taxes. he had no chocie. that's not giving in. the entire stimulus package was a middle finger to the republican party.

edit: damn those republicans! http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303506404577448924153849542.html?mod=ITP_pageone_1

 

bush had a lot of good will post 9/11, just as obama would have in teh same situation. year 4-8 not so much. and are you seriously arguing that the hate towards obama has reached the bush is hitler and should be tried for war crimes level?

 

Which Democrats were doing this to Bush? I'm talking about the actual opposition he has experienced in Congress from the Republicans, which has reached unprecedented levels. Again, tell me when the Democrats explicitly stated that their objective as a party was to win an election and remove Bush from office?

And, there's no way Obama would've received the same good will that Bush did. No doubt that he would get the "he's a Muslim" and in cahoots with the terrorists suspicions. Hell, there are people now who maintain he's a closet Muslim screwing over Israel at every turn.

 

so i see. so openly stating the fact makes it worse than doing it behind closed doors?

he got a sizable bump in popularity after killing bin laden. i doubt you will find many beggining of the war time presidents historically will low approval ratings. if any.

 

Your first paragraph deals with attitudes of politicians, but your second pretty much just pertains to nutjobs. Not really pertinent.