You know what is a real shame? That like a split church/family/friends, we actually have anonymous adults on the internet that cannot talk with each other because of a petty squabble over websites. There are beautiful and wonderful people on either site. For the life of me though, why is volnation so serious? As an example, I can call Tenny D and ass ****ing piece of shit racist ******* and nothing happens. For that matter insert any moderator or member name and nothing happens. On volnation this would be a temp ban, points added like a driving infraction or perma ban. Then the members, especially in the zone, cannot reference 8 or th or max or x without having their posts deleted or even risk the perma ban. What exactly is the threat? Volnation has devolved into The Village. I mean, the 8th is those whom we cannot speak? Really? I admit, I was gone for roughly 14 months and I missed what caused the separation of so many solid posters. Upon my return when I could post often, I asked admin on vn where did every one go which the simple reply was who? I know this is an old subject but a benefit of this split is the 8th. At least we dont have to deal with lulz, bra, bro, sup, naked pictures of body parts emailed/texted to members, etc.